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orthobiz
post Aug 13 2007, 05:32 PM
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Front and back of the 15" Steelies from 1974 (also available in 75 and 76). Note that the back is some kinda black, almost like an anthracite gray color.

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Wonder if it is supposed to be a pure black and my spare may just not have a lot of paint on it?

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post Aug 13 2007, 05:57 PM
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Here I go again! Ortho's example is why I think the most "correct" currently available tire for a 914-4 is the Coker Michelin XZX 165SR15.
The first Michelin radials available in the US were the Michelin X. Then Michelin made some changes and called them ZX (same tread pattern). They used both X and ZX on Ortho's tire. Next came the XZX, also same tread pattern. Apparently the sixes and LE's came with H rated tires so they need a different tire to be "pure". However, I think most judges would not know the Michelin SR is not correct.
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post Aug 14 2007, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(Porsche Rescue @ Aug 13 2007, 07:57 PM) *

Here I go again! Ortho's example is why I think the most "correct" currently available tire for a 914-4 is the Coker Michelin XZX 165SR15.
The first Michelin radials available in the US were the Michelin X. Then Michelin made some changes and called them ZX (same tread pattern). They used both X and ZX on Ortho's tire. Next came the XZX, also same tread pattern. Apparently the sixes and LE's came with H rated tires so they need a different tire to be "pure". However, I think most judges would not know the Michelin SR is not correct.


Best define whether your referring to an early steel (4 1/2") rim or late style (5 1/2") rim. 155SR15 would be correct on '70-'72 narrow steel rims. <grin>
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post Aug 14 2007, 09:55 AM
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I'm sure you're right.
When I bought my new 914 in 1970 I ordered optional chrome wheels. It had Michelins but I recall that tire brand could have also been Continental or Dunlop, whatever rolled off the boat.They must have been 5.5's because the tires were 165's. Frankly, at the time I had no thought about wheel width/tire sizes. Just wanted chrome wheels on my tangerine Porsche!
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post Aug 14 2007, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(Porsche Rescue @ Aug 14 2007, 11:55 AM) *

I'm sure you're right.
When I bought my new 914 in 1970 I ordered optional chrome wheels. It had Michelins but I recall that tire brand could have also been Continental or Dunlop, whatever rolled off the boat.They must have been 5.5's because the tires were 165's. Frankly, at the time I had no thought about wheel width/tire sizes. Just wanted chrome wheels on my tangerine Porsche!


The chrome early style wheels were 5 1/2". I've been keeping my eyes out for a decent set for the 914-4, however have not come across any that fit the bill.
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post Aug 14 2007, 03:04 PM
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The chrome early style wheels were 5 1/2". I've been keeping my eyes out for a decent set for the 914-4, however have not come across any that fit the bill.


James,
Is this what you are looking for? (These were on our esteemed moderators' 914 at the Reston (Va.) Parade in 1979.

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Attached Image Those are aftermarket wheels. The dealer (factory?) option chromes I am familiar with looked identical to the painted steel wheels but were 5.5" wide. In fact I am thinking they were VW wheels, not Porsche. But then much of the car was VW wasn't it. Shown is my car in 1970. Sorry about the quality, digital image of a 37 year old photo on my wall!
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post Aug 14 2007, 08:04 PM
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Attached Image Those are aftermarket wheels. The dealer (factory?) option chromes I am familiar with looked identical to the painted steel wheels but were 5.5" wide. In fact I am thinking they were VW wheels, not Porsche. But then much of the car was VW wasn't it. Shown is my car in 1970. Sorry about the quality, digital image of a 37 year old photo on my wall!

Did they look anything like these - on the red 914. These were from the dealer in late '72. Brazilian made, like all the others. Availabl from J C Whitney at the time. Yeah, I know, not great to hear, but they were available from Whitney & they were VW.
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Above is the wheel in painted steel, except it is 4.5"er.

The "wheels" on the yellow car are closer. Except those look like VW bug trim rings. The chromes I believe to be "factory" have oval holes exactly like the standard steel wheels.

My memory of the first year is that there were no aftermarket wheels for 914's and no option from Porsche except the chromes. The first aftermarket wheels available (by '71 for sure) were the Rivieras which were made for the VW and had a different offset than stock 914 wheels.
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post Aug 14 2007, 10:16 PM
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Above is the wheel in painted steel, except it is 4.5"er.



Here's the wheel pic:

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post Aug 15 2007, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Jasfsmith @ Aug 14 2007, 12:14 PM) *



The chrome early style wheels were 5 1/2". I've been keeping my eyes out for a decent set for the 914-4, however have not come across any that fit the bill.


James,
Is this what you are looking for? (These were on our esteemed moderators' 914 at the Reston (Va.) Parade in 1979.

Paul


No, the ones I have been looking for at identical to the early painted steel wheels in appearance, but chomed. They were available in 5 1/2" rim width only. I don't believe that there were any available wheel options in '70. '71 was the first year for the chomes.
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post Aug 15 2007, 09:18 AM
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Gint's car the zambeziteen had the 5.5 chromies
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My old Dijon bomb had the 5.5 painted steelies
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James, my '70 pictured above came from the showroom with the 5.5 chromes, only optional wheel available at the time.
Ferg's green car shows them well.
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post Aug 15 2007, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(Porsche Rescue @ Aug 15 2007, 11:39 AM) *

James, my '70 pictured above came from the showroom with the 5.5 chromes, only optional wheel available at the time.
Ferg's green car shows them well.


I stand corrected.

Perhaps a list of known factory and aftermarket wheel options (from when to when they were offered), and known factory OEM tire and "period" available tires might be worthwhile.
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post Aug 15 2007, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(orthobiz @ Aug 14 2007, 10:16 PM) *

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Above is the wheel in painted steel, except it is 4.5"er.



Here's the wheel pic:

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Centers - within the hubcap mounts, should be "dusted" dark gray, same as the backside.
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post Aug 23 2007, 01:41 PM
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Incontrovertible proof of factory spec'd tires. This, on a 70/4, on the engine compartment firewall, on the drivers' side.

And NO, I'm not gonna put those "rim protecters" back on the car.


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Here's the wheel pic:

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Centers - within the hubcap mounts, should be "dusted" dark gray, same as the backside.
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You don't see that "dusted" finish reproduced often on refinished wheels.

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Like this?

Yep.........course, if it's covered by the hubcap who's to know?
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very clean, no scuffs, etc....looks like it wasnt used much....
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