 VW Badge location & body numbers, Challenge to determine beginning & end |
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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
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| davep |
 Sep 23 2007, 06:23 PM
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914 Historian  Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,212 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada   |
I require help with my research.
Typically, the VW badge was riveted to the right headlight bucket up to the end of 1974 and made its way to the right upper corner of the fuel tank bulkhead in 1975. Also, the body number was originally stamped into the rear trunk floor and made its was to a black riveted tag on the support below the right headlight bucket, as well as being found on the Karmann badge. At some point the body number base changed from xxy95zz to xxy90zz. I require everyone to help with changeover VIN, and body number for each of the changes. Please add paint code and date code from the compliance decal as well. Attached image(s)  
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| johannes |
Sep 24 2007, 11:55 AM
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Club Porsche 914 France President Group: Members Posts: 3,084 Joined: 13-January 06 From: France Member No.: 5,409 Region Association: France |
mine has the plate on the tank bulkhead. 475900062
Car date 07-74 Body tag in the spare well on the right 3349508 Attached image(s) 
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Sep 24 2007, 12:31 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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My car date says 07/74.
The plate is up on the headlight bucket. Then there is another plate below the other actually located in the spare tire well that says 284-9514. This number is also on the tag that has the paint code on it. Paint code is L 32 K. Tag located on the front of the driver door jam. |
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| dpolson |
Sep 24 2007, 06:28 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 5-May 06 From: Ouray, CO Member No.: 5,990 |
 My late '74 LE (...1221) has the body tag down in the spare well on the right. Attached is a photo. |
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| kconway |
Sep 24 2007, 09:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Monrovia, CA Member No.: 3,231 Region Association: Southern California |
My 74 has the plate riveted to the right headlight bucket.
Compliance tag says 07/74 Paint Code L96B Body Number in spare tire well 274-9561 Kev    |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Sep 25 2007, 03:27 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,740 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Dave,
The lastest VIN I have data on from the LE Registry with the chassis number in the rear trunk, not on a plate in the front trunk is car VIN 16556, 4/74, Chassis no 1429551. The two LEs in the 21000 VIN range, have them in the front trunk, per Dave Os post above. So the change must have happened between week 14 and 27. |
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| davep |
Sep 25 2007, 09:06 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,212 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Jeff, you are correct, but I did not expect that it might extend so early into 1974. We may need to get a lot of responses to nail this down. I guess my problem is that I rarely see late '74 cars, and few from 1975 or 1976.
The split between 9500 and 9000 base is in either week 36 or week 37. The last 9500 body is near 4752903042 and the first 9000 body is near 4752901848; that is quite an overlap. It will be interesting to see if any '74' bodies were used in 1975 or '75' bodies in 1974. The latter looks highly unlikely now. |
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| Gustl |
Sep 26 2007, 11:04 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,672 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria  |
Dave, here are my car's numbers / badges:
47.4.29.20436 06 / 74 Attached thumbnail(s)    
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| Gustl |
Sep 26 2007, 11:06 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,672 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
2639549
L 65 K Attached thumbnail(s)  Attached image(s) 
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| Johny Blackstain |
Sep 26 2007, 12:00 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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LE has no little plate in the lower front trunk & I have no idea what those are; the Six has no little plate either. Here's the LE- VW plate on the light bucket & chasis stamped into the top of the right fender well.
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| Johny Blackstain |
Sep 26 2007, 12:03 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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LE VIN plate & Kharmann badge-
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| Johny Blackstain |
Sep 26 2007, 12:06 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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LE VIN sticker & trunk stamping, on right side in front of the tail light. The six has no VIN sticker & the trunk stamping is in the middle, in front of the lock.
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| davep |
Sep 26 2007, 04:32 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,212 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
That helps guys. Gustl's car moved the week back to 26.
Al, the early cars did not have the tag, only the rear trunk stamping. The stamping was in the center of the trunk in 1970. Decals either get lost during a repaint, or were not there for European cars. The windshield frame tag was not on European cars either. |
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| Pat Garvey |
Sep 26 2007, 08:18 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
This is cool stuff!
If I keep watching & retaining (yeah, right) this stuff I could become a 914 expert! Or...not, because I'd have to crawl out of my little "early car" world. Pat ps - this post doesn't count |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Sep 26 2007, 08:41 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Dave- the six is a US car, has a windshield VIN plate, stamped in, not raised. Vin sticker is long, long gone. Karmann plate is typical six in that there is no chassis number, (131942 in the trunk), & barely says 15.
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| HAM Inc |
Sep 27 2007, 10:33 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-July 06 From: Watkinsville,GA Member No.: 6,499 Region Association: None |
Dave I turned my 74 into a F-Prod car. I stripped it pretty completely. It has a tag in the spare tire area, but I can't read it as the fuel cell is now blocking it.
No #'s stamped in the trunk area, but this car had been crunched in the right rear and repaired before I bought it and the sheet metal in that area was replaced. |
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| davep |
Sep 27 2007, 11:10 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,212 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(HAM Inc @ Sep 27 2007, 08:33 AM)  It has a tag in the spare tire area, but I can't read it as the fuel cell is now blocking it. Does it have the black tag as shown in the photos above? Even the presence or absence of the black tag is important to know. We can learn quite a bit from that alone. |
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| HAM Inc |
Sep 27 2007, 02:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-July 06 From: Watkinsville,GA Member No.: 6,499 Region Association: None |
Yep, it had the black tag. Hope that helps!
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| woobn8r |
Oct 2 2007, 10:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 607 Joined: 7-January 07 From: Newmarket, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 7,435 Region Association: None |
My '74 VIN# 4742917230 has only two rivet holes in the support by the inner wheel well where the "black plate" once (I assume) resided . There are no stampings I can find in the rear trunk by the tailight.
My compliance sticker (which is Silver, not Black) dates this car as 04/74. The Karman badge shows Chassis # 1659541 and shows L30E as the paint code. The VW plate is also missing however, there are no rivet holes (or evidence of) in either the headlight bucket or the fuel tank bulkhead....and I have looked very carefully. I do have some (poor) pictures I can e-mail you as I am too stupid to know how to post them here.... Hope this helps Sean |
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| davep |
Oct 2 2007, 11:05 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,212 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Sean, send me the photos, and I'll post them.
VIN 4742916556 1429551 04/74 last known before use so far VIN 4742917230 1659541 04/74 first known use so far So we still have a two week / 700 car span to tie down. |
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