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| ChrisReale |
 Jan 4 2004, 05:43 PM
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Sleazy  Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176  |
Fiid, whats the HP and torque figures of this engine? Also, when is the estimated time of installation for this?
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| fiid |
Jan 4 2004, 05:47 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
~ 275 HP
~ 275 foot pounds I will get it installed as soon as I can. I need to:- 1. Resolve the starter situation 2. Get some FI and spark working 3. Get some boost/staging control working 4. Fit the radiator and plumbing to the car. Locate and install fans, and fan controls. 5. Get a motor mount of some description. 6. Get it in. I will probably have to tackle a tranmission rebuild as well. |
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| fiid |
Jan 4 2004, 05:48 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
Oh yeah - I may be able to get more hp and torque since I don't have to deal with emmissions compliance.
BTW. The engine weights roughly the same as a stock type 4 - much less than a 6 cyl. Fiid. |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 4 2004, 06:21 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California 
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So whats the hp your thinking? stock considering a little engine wear?
I really think that this is the engine conversion I want to do. Not trying to be a copycat (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) But I want something reliable (the T4 is not doing that for me), something light, and something with some bragging rights (T4 aint doing that for me, but 280hp? oh heck ya...) Hey, doesnt the intercooler go on top of the engine? and then you need a radiator on top of that? ah phoey.. Hmm lets see.. Front trunk, radiator, spare tire, 2 bass tubes, amp.. no room for anything else (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Do you have conversion cost? Thanks Andrew |
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| John2kx |
Jan 4 2004, 06:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 502 Joined: 22-August 03 From: Augusta, Ga. Member No.: 1,066 |
Is it me, or can anyone else see the last batch of pics Fiid attached? I have space where pics would go but screen is blank below text.
John |
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| fiid |
Jan 4 2004, 06:58 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
It ought to be a reliable engine, and ought to put out the stock HP. The engine comes out of a Legacy Wagon, so this will be light duty for it.
The intercooler will sit above where the cooling fan is on a stock 914. It does require a radiator to be put in the front. I don't have a cost estimate yet. I'm in denial about how much the car costs me, so I'm reluctant to work this out at this stage - I'm just working through it as I can afford bits. I'll add it up at the end - in ain't cheap though. Having said that - the actual engine conversion has not cost me all that much - most of my money to date has gone on suspension upgrades. 23mm Front Torsion Bars Koni Sports all around Weltmeister front Sway Bar New 19mm Master Cylinder Adjustable rear perches and 175 pound springs Mueller's roller bearings all around. I also need to go 5 lug and get some decent brakes on the thing - my brakes just don't bite. They will lock up the wheels, but they don't feel like modern brakes do. I plan to get either M or S calipers up front. Not sure about the rear - might stay stock or try and get something vented. |
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| Gint |
Jan 4 2004, 07:16 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
QUOTE Is it me, or can anyone else see the last batch of pics Fiid attached? I have space where pics would go but screen is blank below text. John Must be you. I can see 'em. They're .jpgs |
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| Andyrew |
Jan 4 2004, 07:23 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Cool already did all that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I agree with you on the brakes, the stock system just doesnt deliver.. My brakes seem to be squishy.. I think I need to rebleed them, and get new pads (atleast rear) but they do lock up the tires. I have 911 A calipers, with new pads, and stock rear calipers with vented rotors all the way around, once I get good pads on all corners they should be balanced, and I have the "T" thingy instead of a proportioning valve. Ya, suspension is expensive.. Hmm dady's saying v6 twin turbo is bad for insurance... ah phoey... But its stock! Andrew |
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| nebreitling |
Jan 4 2004, 07:23 PM
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| fiid |
Jan 4 2004, 07:32 PM
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Clearly you haven't seen it :-)
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| fiid |
Jan 4 2004, 07:33 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
Errr - Insurance? My insurance company doesn't want to know what engine is in the car ??????????? I asked if they wanted to know, and they said they didn't.
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| Andyrew |
Jan 4 2004, 07:39 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Well your not 17
Andrew |
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| ChrisReale |
Jan 4 2004, 07:48 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
Fiid, how much boost are you looking for? Maybe you should try a 930 tach..??
also, rumor has it there is a vented rotor coming out that will allow us to use our 4 lug wheels with 911 brakes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) |
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| Brad Roberts |
Jan 5 2004, 02:12 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Ha ha Fiid.. learn to WAX the paint on the doors BEFORE you apply the NUMBERS..LOL LOL ROOKIE !!!!
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| Brad Roberts |
Jan 5 2004, 02:15 AM
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Cool. Coil on plug. Cool.. it looks identical to a Boxster engine minus two cylinders.
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| fiid |
Jan 5 2004, 03:28 AM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE Ha ha Fiid.. learn to WAX the paint on the doors BEFORE you apply the NUMBERS..LOL LOL ROOKIE !!!! Brad. I like you and all, but (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I never said I wasn't a rookie. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE Cool. Coil on plug. Cool.. it looks identical to a Boxster engine minus two cylinders. Tell it to the PCA. Seriously though, thats cool. I've never seen a boxster engine out of it's vehicle - Are they also quad overhead cam? I believe the motor runs with around 17 lbs of boost. It redlines at 7. |
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| Joe.D |
Jan 5 2004, 07:54 AM
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MCMLXXIII MCCM Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 16-June 03 From: Southern Maine Member No.: 830 |
At the risk of saying "Me Too, too!" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
This is an engine swap I'd can see in my future too. But I'd probably do without the turbos. I have the engine already - its in my daily driver 99 legacy GT ... for now. The Sub 2.5 flat four is a nice engine, and seems like a natural choice to make a reliable daily driver teener with lots of HEAT (needed 'round heah to extend the roof-off driving season well into the early spring and late fall). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I know Kennedy makes the adaptor plate. Is there a ready-made motor mount bar available, or is custom fabrication the only way to do it right now? Joe |
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| Dave Avery |
Jan 5 2004, 09:16 AM
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Cool Project Fiid!
I was contemplating something like this as an upgrade from the TIV in my 550 spyder as well, though I'd use a cheaper JDM motor. If you find yourself out in your garage with a measuring tape in hand, could you measure from the trans bell housing to the farthest forward portion of the engine, as well as the centerline of the crank to the top of the four legged alien? With a 550, there is limited space for this type of thing, but it has been done. Thanks, DMA |
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| RON S. |
Jan 5 2004, 09:34 AM
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9140430841, FINALLY RUNNING Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 22-May 03 From: WALTERBORO,S.C. Member No.: 724 Region Association: South East States |
Fiid,
Your project is so cool.I surtainly share your frustrations.We take the problems one at a time,and solve them one at a time. I appreciate the info from Brad on the starter source.Thats what makes this board great. I just hope that same starter will work w/my 915 box on my project. Keep us posted,great pics. Ron |
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| fiid |
Jan 5 2004, 12:46 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
Any of the the EJ20, 22 or 25 engines ought to work okay, and they are available in a number of different trims. The 230HP single turbo version of this engine costs about half what I paid, and ought to be a lot simpler to get going (remind me again why I didn't get that one??). The 2 litre atmo engine is also available and puts out good power. The 2.5 ought to put out about 180 or so without the cats etc, and the
My "sensible" car is an Impreza 2.5RS, and I have been very impressed with the 2.5 engine. Get a K&N on it and a big intake, and it's a blast! There is currently no solution for the motor mount bar. I may try and design a bar and produce a few of them, if there is enough interest. I will try and get those measurements out, once I get home and start working on it - might be tomorrow. Thanks for all the enthusiasm and support - it means a lot. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) Fiid. |
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