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> Starting a 1973 restoration, Restoring a left for dead $500 914...
FourBlades
post Oct 3 2010, 08:10 AM
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This short video has better sound. It starts with the camera inside stuck on the
back window, then goes to outside on the engine cover, then on to the roll bar
with the top off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c9eK5Mf9dA


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post Mar 29 2013, 08:47 PM
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The walking dead thread rides again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

I really should try to keep this thread updated a little better.

Let's see, I went to an autocross for the first time and my carbs clogged up after 2 runs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif), took the car to a local PCA car show, Joe from Series9 installed Electromotive fuel injection from Clewett Engineering with ITBs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif), Joe powdercoated my Florida corroded Fuchs and added an external oil cooler (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif), I got a Rennshift (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif), I figured out why my GTS seats don't slide, am taking the car to its first DE at Sebring in 3 weeks, and I finally bedded in my porterfield pads.

I was never happy with my braking even though I have newly restored A calipers on the front, V calipers on the rear, new master cylinder and brace, and porterfield s4 pads. I could never lock up my wheels no matter how hard I applied the brakes.

I pm-ed back and forth with Eric Shea a bunch of times going over possible problems and he figured I had never bedded the pads in sufficiently. I tried bedding them a long time ago but did not bother finding a road where I could really do it right.

So I took Eric's advice and went out to a deserted industrial area with a couple of mile long access roads. I did 5 hard stops from 60 to 10 mph with no lock up no matter how hard I pushed. On the 6th try I totally locked the fronts with hard pedal pressure. I did a few more stops trying to go just short of locking up, then drove around for 15 minutes to cool them off. Now I can lock the front wheels up even when cold no problem. I kept the standard pressure regulator and it seems to be working because my rear wheels never lock.

Hope this helps someone.

Thanks Eric!

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post Mar 30 2013, 11:30 AM
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Wow, for some reason I had never read this thread, but wanted to say a few things;
1. Wow, what an incredible project and a fantastic job you have done! Congrats!!!
2. Loved the humor, like the leather bag with 28# shot, etc. VERY funny
3. Thank you for saving a 914

Fantastic!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Mar 30 2013, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(FourBlades @ Mar 29 2013, 09:47 PM) *

I kept the standard pressure regulator and it seems to be working because my rear wheels never lock.

I've shimmed my regulator spring 1/4" and still can't lock up the rears.
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post Apr 21 2013, 06:09 PM
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I'm going to bump this to the top for John, as we had an interesting weekend. He took his car on track for the first time at Sebring and I think he had a blast (while it was running). We battled some issues the whole weekend, most concerning was a breather tube that wouldn't stay put on the head vents. The final Saturday session John got "meatballed" for dropping oil. We realized the head vent was spewing oil all over the engine bay. I was able to get it fixed this morning with a smaller diameter hose, and John did most of the afternoon session. Unfortunately he was seeing some wicked oil temperatures, which I think means he needs to look into a good front-mounted cooler for this car. The Raby engine is so big and bad, it just completely overcomes the small cooler that Joe O'Brien installed. Even worse, when John pulled his car off of the track and came back into the pits, the car quit running in pit lane. We suspect the Electromotive ECU that Joe installed died. Perhaps got too hot. I dunno. I'll let John elaborate - he should have some cool video and pictures in the next couple days.

His car is FAST. I got a chance to drive it - it's killer! I had a hard time not slipping the clutch upon acceleration. All in all, a success John. Your car has come a very long way! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Apr 21 2013, 06:24 PM
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Thanks George and Marc for helping me get the car out and working this weekend. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

From this five years ago:

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To this weekend:

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Totally beat now... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

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post Apr 21 2013, 08:10 PM
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I know that Instructor - Hopefully I will down there in a few weeks
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post Apr 22 2013, 05:30 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Great pics John! Like I said, the car has come a very long way and you should be proud. But from what I heard this weekend, the driver has too. I think you'll get promoted next time out man. I had a great weekend - thanks for letting us hang out with you bud.
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post May 3 2013, 04:49 PM
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Car is running again!

A few minutes talking to electromotive tec support revealed that my firmware was erased. I was able to reload it from my computer and the car fired back up and was running normally again. They felt being in a sealed trunk on a 90 degree day and running 30 minutes of laps might have lead to it overheating.

Need to look into some way to keep the ECU cooler.

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post May 3 2013, 05:29 PM
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I noticed my alternator light is on and my gauges that are electrical powered are all dead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I think my battery may be dying. It is a cheap battery that is four years old that has sat unused for weeks and months at a time.

This may be the real cause of my ECU problems.

I need to pick up an optima or oddessey battery after reading about which is better.

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post May 3 2013, 05:31 PM
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John, I will be at Sebring next weekend. George & I will bring 2 GoPro Cameras to Video everything

T.C.
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post May 3 2013, 07:11 PM
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I mounted my Haltech in the trunk on a big piece of 1/8" sheet aluminum. I put stand offs to elevate the aluminum from the firewall. Seemed to work good. Never overheated the ECU. Basically it was a giant heat sink.

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I think we will do something to make sure it stays cooler.

Maybe put some heat recording stickers on it to see how hot it gets.

I am going diving in the keys at the next Sebring DE so I will miss you guys.

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post May 4 2013, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(FourBlades @ May 3 2013, 03:29 PM) *

I noticed my alternator light is on and my gauges that are electrical powered are all dead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I think my battery may be dying. It is a cheap battery that is four years old that has sat unused for weeks and months at a time.

This may be the real cause of my ECU problems.

I need to pick up an optima or oddessey battery after reading about which is better.

John



I will save you some time... Odyssey. I used to get Optimas but the quality doesent seem to be what it used to be. As a bonus, even with the larger Odyssey 925 you are still about 1/2 the weight of the Optima.
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Thanks James! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

I knew one was generally reckoned to be better.

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post May 7 2013, 06:57 AM
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Way cool John! So glad you got it fixed. I think you were right - it was probably related more to that fuse blowing, but only Joe knows how it was all wired. It might not be a bad idea to figure out a way to provide some direct cooling to the ECU though. Initially I had imagined some CPU fans, but some kind of vent to the trunk would probably do the trick as well.
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I had no idea you were painting over the OG paint.

that is a nice blue, I am now considering it for my car.

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Just spent my night reading through this. Absolutely incredible job.
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post Aug 5 2013, 08:14 PM
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John is a helluva guy to boot. He's out of town now, but I'm sure he'll respond when he has the chance.
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great job putting that thing back together. the car looks fantastic
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