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Starting a 1973 restoration, Restoring a left for dead $500 914... |
ThePaintedMan |
Apr 21 2013, 06:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
I'm going to bump this to the top for John, as we had an interesting weekend. He took his car on track for the first time at Sebring and I think he had a blast (while it was running). We battled some issues the whole weekend, most concerning was a breather tube that wouldn't stay put on the head vents. The final Saturday session John got "meatballed" for dropping oil. We realized the head vent was spewing oil all over the engine bay. I was able to get it fixed this morning with a smaller diameter hose, and John did most of the afternoon session. Unfortunately he was seeing some wicked oil temperatures, which I think means he needs to look into a good front-mounted cooler for this car. The Raby engine is so big and bad, it just completely overcomes the small cooler that Joe O'Brien installed. Even worse, when John pulled his car off of the track and came back into the pits, the car quit running in pit lane. We suspect the Electromotive ECU that Joe installed died. Perhaps got too hot. I dunno. I'll let John elaborate - he should have some cool video and pictures in the next couple days.
His car is FAST. I got a chance to drive it - it's killer! I had a hard time not slipping the clutch upon acceleration. All in all, a success John. Your car has come a very long way! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
FourBlades |
Apr 21 2013, 06:24 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks George and Marc for helping me get the car out and working this weekend. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
From this five years ago: To this weekend: Totally beat now... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) John |
carr914 |
Apr 21 2013, 08:10 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,568 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
I know that Instructor - Hopefully I will down there in a few weeks
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ThePaintedMan |
Apr 22 2013, 05:30 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Great pics John! Like I said, the car has come a very long way and you should be proud. But from what I heard this weekend, the driver has too. I think you'll get promoted next time out man. I had a great weekend - thanks for letting us hang out with you bud.
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FourBlades |
May 3 2013, 04:49 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Car is running again!
A few minutes talking to electromotive tec support revealed that my firmware was erased. I was able to reload it from my computer and the car fired back up and was running normally again. They felt being in a sealed trunk on a 90 degree day and running 30 minutes of laps might have lead to it overheating. Need to look into some way to keep the ECU cooler. John |
FourBlades |
May 3 2013, 05:29 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
I noticed my alternator light is on and my gauges that are electrical powered are all dead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I think my battery may be dying. It is a cheap battery that is four years old that has sat unused for weeks and months at a time. This may be the real cause of my ECU problems. I need to pick up an optima or oddessey battery after reading about which is better. John |
carr914 |
May 3 2013, 05:31 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,568 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
John, I will be at Sebring next weekend. George & I will bring 2 GoPro Cameras to Video everything
T.C. |
Mike Bellis |
May 3 2013, 07:11 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
I mounted my Haltech in the trunk on a big piece of 1/8" sheet aluminum. I put stand offs to elevate the aluminum from the firewall. Seemed to work good. Never overheated the ECU. Basically it was a giant heat sink.
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FourBlades |
May 3 2013, 08:16 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
I think we will do something to make sure it stays cooler. Maybe put some heat recording stickers on it to see how hot it gets. I am going diving in the keys at the next Sebring DE so I will miss you guys. John |
JamesM |
May 4 2013, 09:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,023 Joined: 6-April 06 From: Kearns, UT Member No.: 5,834 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I noticed my alternator light is on and my gauges that are electrical powered are all dead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I think my battery may be dying. It is a cheap battery that is four years old that has sat unused for weeks and months at a time. This may be the real cause of my ECU problems. I need to pick up an optima or oddessey battery after reading about which is better. John I will save you some time... Odyssey. I used to get Optimas but the quality doesent seem to be what it used to be. As a bonus, even with the larger Odyssey 925 you are still about 1/2 the weight of the Optima. |
FourBlades |
May 4 2013, 01:25 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks James! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
I knew one was generally reckoned to be better. John |
ThePaintedMan |
May 7 2013, 06:57 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
Way cool John! So glad you got it fixed. I think you were right - it was probably related more to that fuse blowing, but only Joe knows how it was all wired. It might not be a bad idea to figure out a way to provide some direct cooling to the ECU though. Initially I had imagined some CPU fans, but some kind of vent to the trunk would probably do the trick as well.
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jimkelly |
Aug 5 2013, 03:38 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I had no idea you were painting over the OG paint.
that is a nice blue, I am now considering it for my car. jim |
uncle smokey |
Aug 5 2013, 08:10 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 4-June 11 From: PA Member No.: 13,157 Region Association: None |
Just spent my night reading through this. Absolutely incredible job.
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ThePaintedMan |
Aug 5 2013, 08:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
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John is a helluva guy to boot. He's out of town now, but I'm sure he'll respond when he has the chance. |
AfricanHijinx |
Aug 14 2013, 02:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 12-April 11 From: Snohomish WA Member No.: 12,928 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
great job putting that thing back together. the car looks fantastic
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FourBlades |
Aug 14 2013, 08:18 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks guys. Now that Joe has the engine running really well I need to do some serious cosmetic improvements. My first time paint job needs some redos, some color sanding, and some polishing. I never get tired of just going for a 15 minute drive around town if that's all I have time for. John |
FourBlades |
Feb 1 2014, 10:05 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Do you think Porsches are getting bigger all the time?
The wheels on the Panamera are almost taller than the top of my 914 fenders. This thing has more controls than the space shuttle. I like the dynamic ride height feature. It just needs to hop. This is a loaner car while my 911 is being worked on. John |
cary |
Feb 2 2014, 02:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I don't like the look of the welds sticking up but I would rather not weaken it with too much grinding. John Wholly crap ................ I haven't read this thread all the way thru before. John your car makes my project look like a new car that might have got rained on a bit. LOL. I have a tendency to over grind ..................... I keep seeing Jeff Hails re welded rear fender where the weld disappeared. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I'm on page #8. Great work .............. Then you make me feel bad about not shooting primer as I'm going. As soon as we get up to 55 degrees I'll start shooting some primer to make it look like I'm making progress. |
FourBlades |
Feb 4 2014, 08:53 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Cary, You and your super in law are doing a killer job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I really enjoy reading your thread. Its amazing what a little primer will do for making you feel like you are getting somewhere. I recommend it for that reason alone. I think you really only need to metal finish welds on the outside panels. A lot of the other welds will get covered in seam sealer and not be visible. I did a lot of grinding before figuring that out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) John |
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