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> 914 / 916 RS America Syle door panel sets, We would really like some feedback from you on our newest product
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post Dec 20 2007, 02:39 PM
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Do you really need a way to lock the doors from the inside? If you did away with the inner lock mechanism, you'd still be able to lock the doors with the key from outside, wouldn't you? That would be perfectly acceptable to me. And I much prefer the look of the red door tab pull as opposed to the stock door handle.
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post Dec 20 2007, 03:00 PM
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Can you upholster in the correct material for a 75-76 car?
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post Dec 20 2007, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(appbiz @ Dec 20 2007, 11:03 AM) *

QUOTE(jgara962 @ Dec 20 2007, 10:36 AM) *

I like the looks of the standard panel. Will it have a pull? Perhaps a red one like on the 911 RS?


We are still scratching our head on how to do that. The main problem is engineering a way to lock and unlock the door from the inside as the lock unlock mechanism is intergrated with the latch handle. Any thoughts?
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BTW the pic you posted is of our 911/912/930 RS America offerings, where did you find that pic? Was it from our website www.appbiz.com ?


I was thinking of keeping the handle, but just adding a red pull, so I guess it wouldn't be exactly like the 911 RS panel.

I did a google image search and that photo was one of the first ones that came up.
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post Dec 20 2007, 03:38 PM
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I like the panel, but I hate the map pocket. I don't like puckerd vinyl or leather at all. That panel plain without the map pocket would look awesome. And I would probably re-add the stock 914 map box.

Edit: I should have read the entire thread. I like the plain panel. But I also prefer the stock basket weave over the plain vinyl.
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post Dec 20 2007, 03:52 PM
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Very Nice! -

Basket weave and no pocket and you've got a sale!
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post Dec 20 2007, 04:20 PM
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Just emailed you Bob. You could save me a bit of work with a variation of those.

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post Dec 20 2007, 11:55 PM
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Available in Tan?
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post Dec 21 2007, 12:23 AM
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I don't blame the guy if he never shows up again. He has spent considerable cash trying to come up with a product that would appeal to our group, and now he is being asked to supply the product in 80 different ways. I doubt that it will be feasible or financially beneficial for him to offer this product in every variation laid forth above.

That being said, I would like a 911 looking door panel with the diagonal stitching, in tan, with 911 style pockets, and an option to handle 6.5 speakers (without cutting my doors).
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post Dec 21 2007, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Dec 20 2007, 10:23 PM) *

I don't blame the guy if he never shows up again. He has spent considerable cash trying to come up with a product that would appeal to our group, and now he is being asked to supply the product in 80 different ways. I doubt that it will be feasible or financially beneficial for him to offer this product in every variation laid forth above.

That being said, I would like a 911 looking door panel with the diagonal stitching, in tan, with 911 style pockets, and an option to handle 6.5 speakers (without cutting my doors).


No offense but he did ask for our opinions when he posted "Really would like some feedback from you guys on our newest product." So.........everyone was providing feedback. I think that it is a nice product, but what I have noticed here is that with few exceptions people build their cars the way they like them and that is why there are so many opinions and suggestions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Dec 21 2007, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(roadster fan @ Dec 21 2007, 02:05 AM) *

QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Dec 20 2007, 10:23 PM) *

I don't blame the guy if he never shows up again. He has spent considerable cash trying to come up with a product that would appeal to our group, and now he is being asked to supply the product in 80 different ways. I doubt that it will be feasible or financially beneficial for him to offer this product in every variation laid forth above.

That being said, I would like a 911 looking door panel with the diagonal stitching, in tan, with 911 style pockets, and an option to handle 6.5 speakers (without cutting my doors).


No offense but he did ask for our opinions when he posted "Really would like some feedback from you guys on our newest product." So.........everyone was providing feedback. I think that it is a nice product, but what I have noticed here is that with few exceptions people build their cars the way they like them and that is why there are so many opinions and suggestions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Now, if you didn't ask for feedback, that's another story. I'm one of those guys who put together their own door panels with carbon fiber vinyl and door panels purchased here on this site. They look good and are different. They match the vinyl in the seat inserts. Will post pictures this spring when 914-6 conversion comes out of winter storage.

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post Dec 21 2007, 09:13 AM
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Puting door panels together is actualy very easy. I posted a tutorial in the "classics" section. And there are already posts that show how to make "GT" panels.
New cores are available, or you can cut them yourself. The most difficult is to find the right vinyl. For instance, I easely found the large basketwave (post 75) here in France.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=54608

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post Dec 21 2007, 09:55 AM
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Guys I very much want your feedback positive or negative. My company was built by listening to our customers. We are now the largest supplier of Porsche 911 / 912 / 930 Door panels and carpet kits worldwide and its because we listen!

In the past we have concentrated on the 911 /912/ 930 market. So many of our 911 customers also have 914s and they have been bugging us to bring more 914 products to the market.

For the 914's we currently sell
Carpet sets in German match Perlon, plush needlepunch and True Sliverknit
Trunk sets in all the above materials
Perlon headliners with bound edges
Our Pelon felt is custom made for us 6000 yards at a time and is the only stuff available that actually matches the factory stuff. Most of our compertitors use material designed for speaker covers.

The door panels we plan to offer are as follows

OEM Style panels in black Vinyl, basketweave or black leather

RS America Style Panels, in black Vinyl, basketweave or black leather

RS America Style Panels With Pockets (Shown Above) in black Vinyl, basketweave or black leather

914 GT Style Panels (Long leather strap and wimpy Plastic handle) Like '73 911 RS/RSR, in black Vinyl, basketweave or black leather

916 Replica Panels with deep pockets on both sides and decorative Diagonal Stitiching in the lover front and upper rear quadrant (Available March)

We will also be selling uphoster it yourself sets for the kits that do not have storage pockets. (Storage pocket fabrication is beyond the abilities of most Do it yourselfers)

We are aso willing to cover them in customer provided materials if you need a color other than black merely purchase more than enough material and send it to us.

Our 914 panels have a formed galvanized steel top section. We spent a year trying to get these panels right, we tried forming particle board (like some of the OEM panels), we tried vaccum forming it, we tried fiberglass. We just were not happy with the results. In the end we found the steel top was the way to go. The factory used steel on some 914 panels, but most were formed particle board.

Unlike the factory "formed particle board panels" ours are very easy to recover, and can be redone again and again. You pretty much destroy the factory ones trying to recover them.

I'm attaching a pic of the top portion of our panels. As you can see we are serious about this project and have spent quite a bit on tooling to get these right .

Again keep your comments comming, positve or negative and lets build a good product together!

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post Dec 21 2007, 10:04 AM
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That looks like serious job ou want to do.

I think you go the right way if you can provide the panel the customer wants. So many 914's, so many panels ...
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post Dec 21 2007, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(johannes @ Dec 21 2007, 08:04 AM) *

That looks like serious job ou want to do.

I think you go the right way if you can provide the panel the customer wants. So many 914's, so many panels ...



Johannes
Looked at your post on the recovering, very good work, BRAVO!

Our top piece is a bit easier to recover, we have a channel that is spot welded to the face so you merely slide the wood or cardboard strip under it.

Again really really nice work on restoring the old panels
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post Dec 22 2007, 01:52 AM
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Unlike the factory "formed particle board panels" ours are very easy to recover, and can be redone again and again. You pretty much destroy the factory ones trying to recover them.

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Bob, if you don't mind me asking, what are your panels themselves made of?

Again, nice product and I think you hit the selection on the head.

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post Dec 22 2007, 09:29 AM
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Alright I spoke with Bob yesterday, nice guy. He sent me a picture of the 'GT' panel and quoted me (as a PCA member...:-) a total of $220 to make them with the supplied door pull hardware that I have and EVEN offered to emboss the edge of the door strap whith a machine that they had found in a barn....original Porsche stuff!. Anyway once the holidays are over I'll be sending him my stuffso he can make a panel just like this.......

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I BELIEVE I purchased the door pull and stuff from Ebay??? Please remember I have been purchasing 'stuff' for this conversion for over 2 yrs...

Oh...he said the panels are masonite...stock type stuff. As my car will be a queen of the shop and dry road I am not too worried bout decay.
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post Dec 22 2007, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(appbiz @ Dec 21 2007, 10:55 AM) *

914 GT Style Panels (Long leather strap and wimpy Plastic handle) Like '73 911 RS/RSR, in black Vinyl, basketweave or black leather

We are aso willing to cover them in customer provided materials if you need a color other than black merely purchase more than enough material and send it to us.

Bob, How much material do you need to cover a pair in this style?
I'm thinkin' tan leather....with a wimpy black plastic handle

Thanks,

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QUOTE(woobn8r @ Dec 22 2007, 08:19 AM) *

QUOTE(appbiz @ Dec 21 2007, 10:55 AM) *

914 GT Style Panels (Long leather strap and wimpy Plastic handle) Like '73 911 RS/RSR, in black Vinyl, basketweave or black leather

We are aso willing to cover them in customer provided materials if you need a color other than black merely purchase more than enough material and send it to us.

Bob, How much material do you need to cover a pair in this style?
I'm thinkin' tan leather....with a wimpy black plastic handle

Thanks,

Sean




The panels are 16" x 39" so a piece 23" x 45" for each door will do the trick. the top requires a bit more for the padded area (Some material tucks under) and we need extra material on the sides to grip while we uphoster, most of which will be trimmed away before shipment
Any other questions please feel free to call
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QUOTE(woobn8r @ Dec 22 2007, 08:19 AM) *

QUOTE(appbiz @ Dec 21 2007, 10:55 AM) *

914 GT Style Panels (Long leather strap and wimpy Plastic handle) Like '73 911 RS/RSR, in black Vinyl, basketweave or black leather

We are aso willing to cover them in customer provided materials if you need a color other than black merely purchase more than enough material and send it to us.

Bob, How much material do you need to cover a pair in this style?
I'm thinkin' tan leather....with a wimpy black plastic handle

Thanks,

Sean



Presently we are makeing the lower part with masonite, same as the factory panels, in the future once the dies are made we will be making them from Panelboard a weather resistant fiberboard (cardboard like) and punching them out on our 110 ton 30" x 60" Full head die cutting press.
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Here is a pic of the backside of the 914 panels right after uphostery. They can be reuphostered without removing the rivets that hold the steel top piece to the lower masonite panel.
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