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> HOW TO: Convert to real 5-lug in the rear using 944 CVs
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post Mar 12 2012, 09:14 PM
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Is this the same Aaron Cox that hasn't posted in eleventeen years?
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post Mar 13 2012, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(matthepcat @ Mar 12 2012, 04:25 PM) *

No.

Only on the inner CV.

QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Mar 12 2012, 09:36 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Mar 12 2012, 10:23 AM) *

Yes, they do require a CV gasket. If you don't put them in, it slings grease everywhere... BTDT!


even the stub axle side??

Wow. Grease slinga!




Yes, both... and they look different from the 914 gaskets.
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post Mar 13 2012, 09:15 AM
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His stub axles are the type that do not need seals.

I have those stubs and no grease is slingin'
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post Mar 13 2012, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(matthepcat @ Mar 13 2012, 10:15 AM) *

His stub axles are the type that do not need seals.

I have those stubs and no grease is slingin'



Then you are lucky. The factory calls for the gaskets on them.
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post Mar 13 2012, 12:35 PM
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what the heck, a few bucks each I'll run them.

Now, anyone else need 944 stub axle bearing spacers? Got the material, cranking out at least a pair for me....

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post Mar 14 2012, 03:04 AM
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I could use a pair of those spacers as well, pm sent.
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"Now, anyone else need 944 stub axle bearing spacers? Got the material, cranking out at least a pair for me...."

Oh heck yea! I would make a contribution for the material!
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post Mar 15 2012, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Mar 13 2012, 01:35 PM) *

what the heck, a few bucks each I'll run them.

Now, anyone else need 944 stub axle bearing spacers? Got the material, cranking out at least a pair for me....

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net-219-1331663717.1.jpg)


Hey Aaron, will these fit the late 911 stub axles also, if so I'll take a pair.
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Looks like 6 or so people interested in spacers for 944 stubs (or late 911 hubs).

My machinist pal started on them yesterday, and should be able to get them done next week.

Looking at 25/pair shipped. Pays for beer and materials (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Steel Stub Spacers.

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post Mar 16 2012, 10:39 PM
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Interesting...

I think you can run a 944 (non turbo/s/s2) automatic axle AS IS. I still plan to run the 944cv's on the 914/4 axles, but it looks like its possible to just buy what you need.

Top is a 914/4 axle, 33 splines.
Middle is a 944 Automatic Axle, 33 splines.
Bottom is a 944 Manual axle, 33 Splines.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net-219-1331959158.1.jpg)
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post Mar 17 2012, 06:59 AM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Mar 16 2012, 11:39 PM) *

Interesting...

I think you can run a 944 (non turbo/s/s2) automatic axle AS IS. I still plan to run the 944cv's on the 914/4 axles, but it looks like its possible to just buy what you need.

Top is a 914/4 axle, 33 splines.
Middle is a 944 Automatic Axle, 33 splines.
Bottom is a 944 Manual axle, 33 Splines.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net-219-1331959158.1.jpg)



You may be right.. but when this was first tried (on my car) I remember trying the 944 axles. They would bind up the CV joints when the trailing arm got to the middle of it's motion. But I could have tried the manual trans axles. It has been a while.
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post Mar 17 2012, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Mar 16 2012, 08:39 PM) *

Interesting...

I think you can run a 944 (non turbo/s/s2) automatic axle AS IS. I still plan to run the 944cv's on the 914/4 axles, but it looks like its possible to just buy what you need.

Top is a 914/4 axle, 33 splines.
Middle is a 944 Automatic Axle, 33 splines.
Bottom is a 944 Manual axle, 33 Splines.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net-219-1331959158.1.jpg)



Interesting!

Can you measure from seat to seat on both the 914-4 and the 944 automatic 33 spline axles and post the results? Thank you.

BTW, I make my spacers out of old rear wheel bearing inner races.
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post Mar 17 2012, 11:29 AM
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Am I too late for a pair of those spacers?

There's a guy on e-bay now selling a set of automatic 944 axles and from the photo they're different lengths, side to side. I don't know where to find a 944 microfiche, but probably worth checking the part numbers.
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post Mar 17 2012, 11:17 PM
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Sure, ill have my bud crank out another set.

Hmmm, maybe we would need only 944 auto, but 2 of the short side. Either way, should work.

My /4 axles get machined this week.
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post Mar 17 2012, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Mar 16 2012, 08:39 PM) *

Interesting...

I think you can run a 944 (non turbo/s/s2) automatic axle AS IS. I still plan to run the 944cv's on the 914/4 axles, but it looks like its possible to just buy what you need.

Top is a 914/4 axle, 33 splines.
Middle is a 944 Automatic Axle, 33 splines.
Bottom is a 944 Manual axle, 33 Splines.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net-219-1331959158.1.jpg)



The 944 auto's would be a nice alternative , if the mid point bind is on the inside snap ring , the axles colud be machined to not use the inside snap ring and make the axles free floating using the outside snap rings as retainers of the cv joint ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

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OK, I still couldn't find a microfiche, but there are left and right side axles for the auto trans 944's. Here are Autozone links for LEFT and RIGHT sides. Says the left is 17" and the right 15". That's $75 bucks for a complete axle with a limited lifetime warranty, not bad.

So what's the length of that axle you have?
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post Mar 18 2012, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Mar 16 2012, 09:39 PM) *

Interesting...

I think you can run a 944 (non turbo/s/s2) automatic axle AS IS. I still plan to run the 944cv's on the 914/4 axles, but it looks like its possible to just buy what you need.

Top is a 914/4 axle, 33 splines.
Middle is a 944 Automatic Axle, 33 splines.
Bottom is a 944 Manual axle, 33 Splines.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net-219-1331959158.1.jpg)



Bingo! Nice work Aaron! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) Too bad I already machined my 914 axles.
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There is a NOS set of 944 automatic axles on SF Craigs List... $100

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/pts/2906895456.html
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From the part number those are both right side axles, which according to the Autozone description are the shorter 15" length. I don't think they fit, but need the measurement from Aaron to know which 944 axle he used in the photo, or the stock length of a 914 axle length to compare.
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