Tarret Bar group buy, Serious Buyers Options

[Joe Bob]

Just being impatient....as usual....

[Gint]

I guess I'm completely out of this deal Aaron. I appreciate it all of the effort you put into it.

Explaination as to why can be found here.

Mike

[Ira Ramin]

Hi Guys,
Thanks for all the interest in my products here, and I’m sorry if this group buy has caused any problems or bad feelings. Until this afternoon, I’ve been out of the country for the last three weeks on business and haven’t been able to deal with this properly. Group buys sound good initially but can easily go wrong, as some of us are starting to realize. Up front, I sell a bunch of parts, my dealer (the source) makes some money, and a bunch of you guys save some money. What could be so wrong with that?

What about the guys currently paying full price with another dealer? They’re not too happy when they find out after their purchase. And if they find out before the purchase and make their dealer drop his price. Than I have an unhappy dealer that may not buy my products again.

Any of my dealers that see the prices that were posted are not going to be very happy about it either. Why would they want to stock my products when they are being undercut and can’t sell them. They’ll also think that I must be giving someone else a better deal.

This is also not good for club members Mike and Brad for the same reasons. Not only does it cause problems for them, but there is a price error on the discount listed for Mike’s bearings. There’s either an error, or the source isn’t planning on making any money on them. There’s not enough margin for so many people to make money on them, and Mike's bearings are out of this group buy. In addition, any needle bearing purchases from members of this board should go through either Mike or Brad, not me. They’ve both put in the time to develop, support, and promote the bearings, so please go through them first for bearings.

I believe that this started with good intentions from everyone involved, and that I’m partially to blame for the misunderstanding between one of my new dealers and myself, which allowed the group buy to start without my knowledge. Keeping things going smoothly is part of my job. I’ve spent part of the day today apologizing to some of my other dealers that found out about it.

I’m now stuck with the choice of disappointing some of you guys or possibly pissing off more of my dealers. At this point, I think there’s no real harm done but I’d like to ask you guys to please wrap this buy up by the end of this week, if not sooner. Aaron is still coordinating, and all sales are going through his source. I will drop ship the parts. This is the last group buy. Please feel free to post or contact me directly with any questions.

Thanks,
Ira Ramin

[ArtechnikA]

... Group buys sound good initially but can easily go wrong, as some of us are starting to realize. ...
I’m now stuck with the choice of disappointing some of you guys or possibly pissing off more of my dealers. ... This is the last group buy.

well said, thanks for posting here in person to clarify the issues.

i know that at my day job at Ross-Tech, the marketing director spends a bunch of time (especially around the holidays) keeping the distributors in line and seriously, actively, discouraging discounting. US trade laws do require that the "MSRP" is a "suggested" price and a manufacturer cannot dictate what price a distributor charges. (they can, of course, dictate what price distributors -pay- ...)

on high-value, low-margin parts, undercutting just winds up hurting everyone.

i like getting a deal as much as the next person, especially on expensive stuff. but i think your decision to eliminate group buys is a good one. i wish you luck enforcing it - it's an ongoing struggle !

[Aaron Cox]

Thanks Ira for clearing that up.

As to logistics,
products will be drop shipped, and ill get the contact info to place your orders in a day or 2.

Thanks again,
Aaron

[anthony]

I think I'm in. What's the price going to be on the front bar?

[Aaron Cox]

1-5 bars = 425
5-10 bars = 400
10 + = 375

i think we are at 8 bars

[anthony]

Well, lets go people. Everybody knows the Tarett bar is the best bar for the money!

We only need two more orders on the bar to get the best price. Gint, come back now that the roller bearing issue is cleared up.

[Joe Bob]

I will solicit buyers from the 911 board.....

[Aaron Cox]

sweet! go mikey

[Gint]

We only need two more orders on the bar to get the best price. Gint, come back now that the roller bearing issue is cleared up.

I never wanted a bar. Well, that's not exactly true, I want one, but I can't afford it and it's not a "necessity". It will have to wait until I get the "rusto" done. I needed the bearings to get them done during the resto. But I've got enough other stuff to spend money on the next 3-9 months or so.

[ArtechnikA]

let me provide some closure here too, for those wondering where the interest in expressed earlier is. i wasn't in for a bar either - it was bushings and top strut mounts to go along with my strut upgrade.

i agree Tarett's bar is probably the hot-setup value leader.

if i need to go cheap, i'll use the monoball pillow block 19mm bar from my /6 and have some lever arms welded up to fit my splined ends. if funding permits, i'll go with the Smart bar. similarly with the upper strut bearings - while a strut truss doesn't do much for a 914 due to the design of the front bulkhead, it -is- a benefit on the 911, and WEVO's integrated approach looks to be the class of the field there.

so - my advice for any of you fence-sitters out there would be to jump on this deal - i doubt you'll see anything similar come by for a long time. in my case, the killer deal is for a part that was never on my shopping list ...

[Gary]

OK guys. It looks like you're spitting distance from 10 bars. I'll throw my hat in and be the 9th, but only if someone follows me to make it 10. I'm up to my ears in a full resto, but this is a great thing going.

Gary

[TimT]

Like Rich said, jump on this,

Im already in, however we need more people to make this buy really sweet!!..

Everybody wins!!

[seanery]

what sizes are these available in?

[RAR]

Greetings,
I too was wondering about the bar size. It appears 22 is the only one for the fronts. Is this what folks are using for a 3.2 or 3.6 conversion for the street, or is a larger bar required. There doesn't seem to be a rear bar, but this isn't recommended on the six swaps as I understand it. Thanks.

[Joe Bob]

sweet! go mikey

Seems that PP will be carrying the item soon and the post got pulled.....

[Joe Bob]

Greetings,
I too was wondering about the bar size. It appears 22 is the only one for the fronts. Is this what folks are using for a 3.2 or 3.6 conversion for the street, or is a larger bar required. There doesn't seem to be a rear bar, but this isn't recommended on the six swaps as I understand it. Thanks.

22mm is what I use on my 3.6 911....it's the stock size for the Carrera. More than adequate for the street and occasional track use....

[Ira Ramin]

I’m sorry to disappoint anyone but the group buy is over. The deadline was 12:00 midnight on Saturday. I had asked for this to be wrapped up quickly but instead of doing that, someone went and posted it on the Pelican board. The person that posted it is out. Now I have some very angry vendors and I have to insist that this is the end. I see 8 people still possibly in. I know who they all are and I can only honor the first five that I receive orders for with payment from Aaron’s supplier by the end of Tuesday. No others will be accepted. I’m sorry for having to handle it this way but unfortunately I have no other choice.

Ira

[anthony]

What's the point of allowing group buys if they can't be advertised on public chat boards?