The Doc's tranny waggin' Options

[tdgray]

Doc.... did you try summit racing?

I remember buying metric fittings from them long ago for the british cars.... of course it is local to me.... I can run up there for you if need be.

[Dr Evil]

I made it to the junk yard today on my way to Plain City, OH. I found the only VW there with CIS and raided every fitting I could find. I also raided a few MBZ for parts, but their systems are all hard line so few fittings. The verdict? I have not been able to find the large swivel fitting for the pressure accumulator, probably because there is only one on the cars with it.

Dont fear! I have a solution! I am going to cut the threaded neck off of the large fitting on the accumulator, and weld on an appropriate fitting. If you cant understand what I am saying, just stand by. Its gonna be awesome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

With this, I stand a chance of making it to Scooter's with the bus.

Let us pray........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hands.gif)

[scotty b]

I'll have the van gassed up and the trailer attatched (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)

[rick 918-S]

Just throw that accumulator in the trash now and save the van from the horrible fire that will ensue when the weld fails and hi pressure fuel sprays all over everything.

Seriously, Just find a wrecked Volvo and get the correct fitting.

[Dr Evil]

Well, arent you a ray of sunshine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Wait and see.

[dlee6204]

I'm kinda confused because I think you are making this more difficult than it needs to be. You only need a barb fitting for the outer large connector on the accumulator right?



#30733 in this photo right? Five minutes on google and it looks like you can get it here...

http://www.specialtauto.com/delorean-parts...-injection.html


$14.60 for the bigger one,
$11.96 for the smaller one (#30732)
Not exactly a bargain but better than trying to weld on an accumulator.


When I did the CIS system for my car, I had no problem finding any of the fittings or even adapting any of the parts to fit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[Jeffs9146]

I think you are making this more difficult than it needs to be.

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If you use the stock 3.0L lines and the stock fuel filter you can just adapt the line coming into the filter!

[rick 918-S]

Well, arent you a ray of sunshine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Wait and see.

Don't mean to be a complete jerk but I have seen your welding. There is no way "I" would weld on an accumulator. First the guts will not survive the heat and second unless you have a tig you will stand about a 10% chance that the fitting will not leak at the weld someplace or crack under high pressure and vibration. Some problems shouldn't be solved with a welder. Have you thought of maybe rethreading the accumulator with a fitting you can actually get?

[Dr Evil]

Alright, mother. I found the connector at a parts yard in Columbus, OH. Game on!

Dlee, that is the site I tried to order from, and where I got the picture from, and that is the guy who has not been returning messages after the tornado hit his area.

Jeff, if I had the whole CIS setup then I wouldnt need the fitting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I didnt have that fitting, that is why I needed it.

Oh and Rick, the welding would have been nut to nut and I bet it would have worked, but no need to mess with that now.

[dlee6204]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Glad you got it. I forgot you mentioned that place in Texas.

[Dr Evil]

I think you are making this more difficult than it needs to be.

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If you use the stock 3.0L lines and the stock fuel filter you can just adapt the line coming into the filter!

You know what is neat about this pic? The fittings on your accumulator are all the same, and are of the available size (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

I have the parts all cobbled up, now the hard part is that the large barbed fitting is way bigger than the one it goes to. So, I either need to make a hose with a reducer (likely) or I dont know.

[Dr Evil]

Update! Jeff, your pic helped out a lot. I didnt know that the smaller center input was the input. I thought the big one in was the input. This will make it possible for me to plumb it as it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[rick 918-S]

I'm so relieved Mike. You may have been successful but the risk is not worth the reward here. Carry on,,, carry on.

[Dr Evil]

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[Jeffs9146]

Update! Jeff, your pic helped out a lot. I didnt know that the smaller center input was the input. I thought the big one in was the input. This will make it possible for me to plumb it as it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yep it took me a while to figure out which fitting fit where! I got everything in a box from the pump to the engine but nothing labled. I did have to cut a few lines to attach to the ss lines and from the pump to the tank but it does work!

I even paid for some banjo stuff I didn't end up using because I already had it.

I pulled my engine today so I can fix the vacume and oil leaks!!

[Dr Evil]

You took the upper and lower dash off to get the engine out???

[Jeffs9146]

You too the upper and lower dash off to get the engine out???

No those are extras with cracks!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Dr Evil]

Some update:

I attempted to insert fittings into the 1.8mm (2mm) ID line that I bought and there is no way that is going to happen. I dont know what voodoo the Germans used to do it, but the tip of the fittings are about as big as the hose. So, I tried it with the 2.8mm line and it barely fits to start, but I made it work. I took two blocks of wood, clamped them together, drilled a hole down their interfaces just a bit smaller than the 3/16" OD of the nylon line, and then clamped the line in the blocks. Once clamped, I used my hydraulic press to apply the direct force necessary to push the fitting into the tube.

I have some more tubing that is due to be here either today or tomorrow so I will leave the line making as the last step.

I have the right 3/4 of the tin done with the front, back and right side.

I have riveted/bolted some metal to the airfilter box to keep it straight and allow for solid mounting.

Back to work.

[Dr Evil]

OK, I am nearing the end of my time. I got the tins done for now. They aint pretty but they only need to last 6hrs to Scooter's. Transmission hoses hooked up. Transmission shifter cable routed, I will hook it to the tranz tomorrow when I change the pan on it. Axles on and sealed. Center section of the intake all assembled with TB, CSV, AAR port. Mean looking piece of work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I got the fittings to change the big out to a little out.

Still on the to-do list:
- Change tranz pan and connect shifter cable
- Design and build throttle linkage
- Make all fuel lines (I hope UPS shows up early)
- Route vac and air hoses.
- Go through the wiring in the cabin, and engine bay and hook up or remove stuff.
- Wire up the CSV, AAR, and WUR to power. Oh ya, install TTS for the CSV.
- Exhaust
- Figure out if I have to goof with the oil lines or if I have all the parts (since I removed the manifold from the circuit).
- Mount the CIS air box and dist
- Finish making the air tube so that it accommodates a tilted TB.
- Battery....I should probably charge it
- Add oil and ATF

I cant think of anything else.

A cool note, for the throttle I am going to try and make a cable extension off of the tranz bell crank using a bicycle brake cable. I bought a set of 4; front and rear brake, and two shifter cables for $5 at Wally World. They are Bell, not a knock off either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This ought to be fun.

[Dr Evil]

Still on the to-do list:

- Design and build throttle linkage
- Make all fuel lines (I hope UPS shows up early)
- Route vac and air hoses.
- Go through the wiring in the cabin, and engine bay and hook up or remove stuff.
- Wire up the CSV, AAR, and WUR to power. Oh ya, install TTS for the CSV.
- Exhaust
- Figure out if I have to goof with the oil lines or if I have all the parts (since I removed the manifold from the circuit).
- Mount the CIS air box and dist
- Finish making the air tube so that it accommodates a tilted TB.

- Add oil and ATF

No idea how I am going to pull this off in 6 hrs. I have to leave around 6pm as I have to be fresh (enough) for the clinic tomorrow. Ugh.