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The Doc's tranny waggin' |
Dr Evil |
May 28 2012, 01:48 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I can not move the DIS closer as there is no room and the dist has to be upright or it wont work, not like the L-jet pictured which has to be horizontal.
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Jeffs9146 |
May 28 2012, 02:10 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
I can not move the DIS closer as there is no room and the dist has to be upright or it wont work, not like the L-jet pictured which has to be horizontal. If you switch to the early Volvo 242 intake housing you will be cutting the height by 50%! Attached thumbnail(s) |
Dr Evil |
May 28 2012, 02:13 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have the housing, but it will still have to be as far away as the current model that I am using. I will take some pics to show what I am working with.
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Dr Evil |
May 28 2012, 06:16 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The distance from the dist to the TB is 21" in current location. I can move it slightly closer, but there are things in the way between: AAR, WUR, oil thermostat, oil filter. I have to move the oil supply parts to bring the air box closer, this will be interesting.
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Dr Evil |
May 29 2012, 02:00 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I picked up an 3" ID x 18" pipe this afternoon. I am due to go to a Pirates game tonight so no work now. But, I am committed to getting this part figured out. After this, I will order fuel lines and attempt to start it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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OU8AVW |
May 29 2012, 02:41 PM
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Yacht Rigger Group: Members Posts: 1,803 Joined: 1-October 08 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 9,601 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Pirate's game?
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Dr Evil |
May 29 2012, 02:55 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Why do you have a picture like that?
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Katmanken |
May 29 2012, 05:35 PM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Maybe he went to Gasparilla Day down in Tampa. They celebrate the Pirate's visit and generally misbehave.
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OU8AVW |
May 29 2012, 08:06 PM
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Yacht Rigger Group: Members Posts: 1,803 Joined: 1-October 08 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 9,601 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Just use Google. Amazing what you get with no result filter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Dr Evil |
May 30 2012, 08:48 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Tonight was very productive. I changed gears after looking at the whole setup. I could find no close area to move the dist to, particularly with the bulky airbox. So, back to the pretty Al Volvo box. Still, it could not be mounted near the center of the engine.....from the bottom. So, I came up with an idea to build aluminum brackets to suspend the airbox from the ceiling of the engine bay (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) More later.
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Jeffs9146 |
May 30 2012, 10:46 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
That would work great if you mount the Volvo intake to the motor and just the air box above! You will run into problems if the dist is mounted to the chassis because of the movement of the motor! |
Jeffs9146 |
May 30 2012, 10:57 PM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
QUOTE Still, it could not be mounted near the center of the engine..... If you make a bracket that bolts onto the intake bolts you could mount the volvo intake just to the left and the pipe would be considerably shorter. You could also hang it out to the left, not mounted to the chassis, but the motor! |
BajaXJ92 |
May 31 2012, 06:00 AM
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Extended Member Group: Members Posts: 2,146 Joined: 20-April 06 From: Prescott, AZ Member No.: 5,895 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So, I came up with an idea to build aluminum brackets to suspend the airbox from the ceiling of the engine bay (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) More later. What about the top access panel to the motor? Are you mounting to that? |
Dr Evil |
May 31 2012, 08:52 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
You will see. I originally was trying to mount the Volvo setup to the intake manifold, but I need 5.5" of clearance and that was not available directly on top. However, there was room just to the side on the left. I have the AAR and WUR mounted on the left and those have to be considered in the equation. What I intend to mount to is one of the braces that runs fore and aft on the left ceiling. It will place the dist aft and better line it up with the TB. Another reason I decided to abandon mounting the dist to the intake gear is that it is rather heavy and I didnt want to stress the intake stuff. I dont think that engine movement will be a huge issue as the rubber ends of the coupler will act as shock absorbers, and the engine mount doesnt let the engine shake more than minimal. But, time will tell and if I need to adjust the design then so be it.
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Jeffs9146 |
May 31 2012, 09:00 AM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
QUOTE I dont think that engine movement will be a huge issue as the rubber ends of the coupler will act as shock absorbers, and the engine mount doesnt let the engine shake more than minimal. Just an FYI Doc!! After dealing with vacume leaks on my 3.0L intake that would work for a while then fail it became clear that it needs to be solid attached to the motor or the vibrations alone will cause problems! I welded up a bracket that attached to the front and rear intake studs. |
Dr Evil |
May 31 2012, 09:11 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That just cant happen. There is no way to mount to the motor. There is too much stuff mounted to it already. I may just be able to place another flex joint in the tube between the TB and the dist. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) This is worrisome news.
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Jeffs9146 |
May 31 2012, 09:21 AM
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Ski Bum Group: Members Posts: 4,062 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Discovery Bay, Ca Member No.: 128 |
That just cant happen. There is no way to mount to the motor. There is too much stuff mounted to it already. I may just be able to place another flex joint in the tube between the TB and the dist. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) This is worrisome news. The flex line will need to be Very stout! When I had a 90' rubber elbow, before I welded up my steal one, I would hit the throttle and the rubber would flex and be pulled in from the vacume. This would cause a delay in the throttle response and would get worse the higher the RPM's! If you do use a flex joint I would make it very short just to add the buffer from the vibrations. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Dr Evil |
May 31 2012, 09:41 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That is my plan. I will try without first and then source some flexible hose for a 1" gap or so in the pipe. This will enable it to be stout, and allow for absorption of some of the vibration. Actually, this may be a great idea overall as it will make fabrication of the pipe easier as the flex joint enables slight adjustments in angle and rotation so mating to the TB should be a snap.
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Dr Evil |
May 31 2012, 08:28 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Here is the rough mockup in aluminum (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Turned out pretty well.
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Dr Evil |
Jun 3 2012, 09:09 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,032 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Here is the bracket assembly.
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