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| plymouth37 |
 Oct 17 2008, 01:09 AM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Formula SAE looks like blast!
I have thought about pulling a mold off of the humps, I want to see how they end up, i they don't end up right a mold may be the way to go. Now that the 'glass is thicker I need to sand them down and lay on some primer, after mid-terms are over that is... |
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| r_towle |
Oct 17 2008, 03:03 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,645 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Oct 17 2008, 03:09 AM)  Formula SAE looks like blast! I have thought about pulling a mold off of the humps, I want to see how they end up, i they don't end up right a mold may be the way to go. Now that the 'glass is thicker I need to sand them down and lay on some primer, after mid-terms are over that is... Its Damn hard to find the time to work on these major projects...the little ones add up to suck up all available bandwidth some days...weeks.. I finally chopped, cut, sectioned and welded the fender on one side... I will post up a few pics in my thread to inspire you to go out and tinker,, Its really fun doing the custom stuff....its alot more freelance. Rich |
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| Loser_Cruiser |
Oct 17 2008, 04:35 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 4-April 05 From: Bellingham, WA Member No.: 3,873 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(biggy72 @ Oct 16 2008, 11:55 PM) I just finished up my ME degree in May. I really didn't have that great of a GPA and I will blame most of that on being in Formula SAE.... but I had a job before most of my friends so it worked out. Compared to the other younger guys I work with I am far and away more experienced at actually doing pretty much everything besides writing reports which I am catching up on pretty quickly. I don't know how much my boss is noticing of what I am capable of yet, but I know the guys in the shop notice it. Out of everyone at work I know the most about composite work and I learned it all because of FSAE. How far into your degree are you? I know my junior year was the worst... and my senior year left me in the lab about 6 hours a day, then I would go home and do more hw. What type of resin are you using for your fiberglass? If you want to make your glass parts lighter I would suggest pulling a mold off of the part you currently have, then make a new part with just the shape that you want. Also vacuum bag everything. We don't do it at work yet, but it only makes your work lighter and stronger, and it can be done pretty cheaply if you do it right. After graduation, but before the FSAE competition I built the body for our formula car by myself in my garage. I wish I had a little more time and I wish the mold was nicer, but I think it turned out pretty well for only having about a month after work to build it. I ams like its gonna be pretty fun and I can get my car fix while Im away from the 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
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| plymouth37 |
Oct 25 2008, 05:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I finally had a weekend off and decided to do some welding today.
I plan on cutting out the rear trunk floor but decided to weld in some rear bracing first to ensure that nothing moves. I am not really sure if this will drop any weight from the car but it should make it stiffer and easier to work on.  I welded in 1/8" steel plate as a base to weld the 1.5" diameter 1/8" wall tubes to. I weighed the tubes, plates, and the difference in weight of my welding wire spool and found that the whole structure weighs 14.7 pounds, next I will cut out the floor and hope it weighs more than 14.7 pounds (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .  I will probably also tie this rear structure into the roll cage. The black structure you can see in the photos is the old mounting bracket for the retractable wings actuators, it will be removed along with the floor.  |
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| plymouth37 |
Oct 26 2008, 12:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I cut out the rear portion of the floor and cleaned things up.
 The removed floor section weighed in at 6 pounds so it looks like I will be able to drop 5 or 10 pounds by replacing the floor with tubing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) I should be able to remove the rest of the floor tomorrow.  |
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| Loser_Cruiser |
Oct 26 2008, 01:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 4-April 05 From: Bellingham, WA Member No.: 3,873 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE I ams like its gonna be pretty fun and I can get my car fix while Im away from the 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Looking back at this it must have been margarita friday or something. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) Not meaning to hijack but I was try to say that Im joining the FSAE here at WSU pulman this week. I really admire all the work done on this car. I can not wait to get done with school so i have some real money to put into my car. |
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| Zaney |
Oct 27 2008, 03:49 PM
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Deuchland en der Haus Group: Members Posts: 461 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Engine 11 Redmond, WA Member No.: 1,738 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
GO COUGS! (Served my four years in Pullman 92'-96') (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
Awesome werk DANA!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Skillz baby skillz! |
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| byndbad914 |
Oct 27 2008, 04:07 PM
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shoehorn and some butter - it fits Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 23-January 06 From: Broomfield, CO Member No.: 5,463 Region Association: None |
lookin' good - I sure wish I had something to weld (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Mendeola is still waiting on shift forks to assemble my transaxle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
Typical "only takes two weeks to assemble and ship out" but they fail to mention the 4 weeks they will mess around waiting on parts. I will be lucky to have it before the really cold weather sets in. |
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| PeeGreen 914 |
Oct 27 2008, 05:27 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(byndbad914 @ Oct 27 2008, 03:07 PM) lookin' good - I sure wish I had something to weld (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Mendeola is still waiting on shift forks to assemble my transaxle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Typical "only takes two weeks to assemble and ship out" but they fail to mention the 4 weeks they will mess around waiting on parts. I will be lucky to have it before the really cold weather sets in. I could drive my car down there and have you weld on it for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| r_towle |
Oct 27 2008, 05:49 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,645 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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WOW
You are a neat freak prior to your pictures...(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) How are you making it so shiny??? Wire brushed grinder??? Rich |
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| byndbad914 |
Oct 27 2008, 07:45 PM
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shoehorn and some butter - it fits Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 23-January 06 From: Broomfield, CO Member No.: 5,463 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Phoenix 914-6GT @ Oct 27 2008, 03:27 PM) QUOTE(byndbad914 @ Oct 27 2008, 03:07 PM) lookin' good - I sure wish I had something to weld (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Mendeola is still waiting on shift forks to assemble my transaxle (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Typical "only takes two weeks to assemble and ship out" but they fail to mention the 4 weeks they will mess around waiting on parts. I will be lucky to have it before the really cold weather sets in. I could drive my car down there and have you weld on it for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) hahaha, Dana and I have talked about me trailering my car up to his place so he can finish weld whatever bracketry I need to make to mount the Mendy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Prolly don't want me welding - I was over at my friend's house a couple weeks ago and trying to practice with his TIG - I haven't really welded in probably 15yrs now (did in college and a little bit here and there after that) and I am WWWAAAAAYYYYY rusty hahaha. OMFG I about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) and gave up after an hour and had him weld some suspension stuff I reconfigured. |
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| jonferns |
Oct 27 2008, 08:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 29-March 07 From: New Jersey Member No.: 7,631 Region Association: North East States
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Dana, I sent you a PM. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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| plymouth37 |
Oct 27 2008, 08:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(byndbad914 @ Oct 27 2008, 06:45 PM) hahaha, Dana and I have talked about me trailering my car up to his place so he can finish weld whatever bracketry I need to make to mount the Mendy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Let me know whenever you get that beast, given the good weather we have been having we could probably still get it in this year (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . QUOTE How are you making it so shiny??? Wire brushed grinder??? Yep, DA and a wire wheel, I love finding that nice shiny metal under the paint! QUOTE Dana, I sent you a PM Sorry Jonathan the rear floor was screwed up from the rear wing mount so I junked it. As for the car I just finished cutting out the rest of the floor and weighed it. It looks like I dropped 7.2 pounds by replacing the floor with tubes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) My camera ran out of juice so I will post pics after it wakes up. |
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| Brett W |
Oct 28 2008, 09:57 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,858 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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Wow, you used .125 wall tubing? You could have easily done that with .065 or even .058 wall. Plus there is no flex back there to speak of. The chassis doesn't bend in the direction you put the bracing. You could have saved 50% of the weight and still had the necessary level of stiffness.
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| fat73 |
Oct 28 2008, 11:07 AM
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W9R1 Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 7-May 05 From: tampa,fl Member No.: 4,043 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Jun 12 2008, 05:57 PM) Check out the stainless steel DC sports header I installed along with a custom up-pipe I built. Purty aint it? It frees up some horses and is 12.2 pounds lighter than the stock manifold (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Dana, Man.....I've been off the forum for wayyyyyy toooo long. I didn't know you were doing this to your car. Awesome work...just what I'd expect from you. Is that the same custom uppipe as I have from Renegade? If so, I'd really like to get some of those headers for my car. Any idea what the hp + is? I'm still running the stock ECU on my car. I have another one that I intend to get flashed one of these days. But with 0-60 4.5 seconds, 24,000+ miles with absolutely NO problems (short of one broken transaxle), 30+ mpg on the interstate, I'm hesitant to change a thing. Ed Hunziker aka W9R1 |
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| plymouth37 |
Oct 28 2008, 12:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(Brett W @ Oct 28 2008, 08:57 AM) Wow, you used .125 wall tubing? You could have easily done that with .065 or even .058 wall. Plus there is no flex back there to speak of. The chassis doesn't bend in the direction you put the bracing. You could have saved 50% of the weight and still had the necessary level of stiffness. When you live in a small town you use what you can find (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I had to look really hard to find anything under 1/4" wall! I am happy though, even with the thicker wall tubing I still lost a good amount of weight. As for the design of the structure, almost every 914 race car I have seen is braced like this so I figure it must work just fine. QUOTE Is that the same custom uppipe as I have from Renegade? If so, I'd really like to get some of those headers for my car. Any idea what the hp + is? My uppipe is a larger diameter than the renegade uppipe but the DC header will bolt right up to your car. If I remember correctly the gains were around 12-15 HP. |
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| Brett W |
Oct 28 2008, 02:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,858 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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The suspension does not twist that way. Just because everyone does it doesn't mean it is right. Look at how your suspension moves. The rear shock towers see no lateral load at all. There is no reason to build that structure in the rear of the car. All the metal after the shock towers is pretty much hanging on for the ride.
When you need small quantities of metal check out these guys: www.speedymetals.com |
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| fat73 |
Oct 28 2008, 02:28 PM
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W9R1 Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 7-May 05 From: tampa,fl Member No.: 4,043 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Oct 28 2008, 10:56 AM) QUOTE(Brett W @ Oct 28 2008, 08:57 AM) Wow, you used .125 wall tubing? You could have easily done that with .065 or even .058 wall. Plus there is no flex back there to speak of. The chassis doesn't bend in the direction you put the bracing. You could have saved 50% of the weight and still had the necessary level of stiffness. When you live in a small town you use what you can find (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I had to look really hard to find anything under 1/4" wall! I am happy though, even with the thicker wall tubing I still lost a good amount of weight. As for the design of the structure, almost every 914 race car I have seen is braced like this so I figure it must work just fine. QUOTE Is that the same custom uppipe as I have from Renegade? If so, I'd really like to get some of those headers for my car. Any idea what the hp + is? My uppipe is a larger diameter than the renegade uppipe but the DC header will bolt right up to your car. If I remember correctly the gains were around 12-15 HP. Is it one of these headers? http://www.racepages.com/products/?N=1719+917+4294965131 Thx...Ed |
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| plymouth37 |
Oct 28 2008, 05:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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That looks like it Ed, any WRX header that does not incorporate an uppipe will fit.
I really like the DC header though, they make great stuff. Good to hear from you buddy! |
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| plymouth37 |
Oct 28 2008, 05:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I finished cutting out the rest of the trunk. As you can see it will be so easy to work on the drivetrain and managing the cooling around the engine should be easier now as well.
I still need to do a little welding around the frame rails to get everything solid but it is getting close.  By cutting out the floor and welding in tubes I dropped 7.2 pounds which brings the total weight cut up to 434 pounds so far.  Now I have to clean up the drivetrain because it looks like crap behind the shiny tubing! |
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