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post Feb 10 2010, 09:11 PM
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The manifold looks gorgeous!
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post Feb 13 2010, 02:40 PM
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The WRX engine is not the best looking engine, I am trying to make it look as good as possible by re-routing and tucking everything I can.
I want to make the engine as easy to remove as possible so I am moving the connection points for all of the fuel and wiring to one location in the front of the engine.
Here is the original routing of the fuel lines.
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I cut off part of the original lines and ran my own feed and return. Once I run the wiring to the "connection area" I will make a nice aluminum bracket that mounts both lines and the wiring to the alternator bracket
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post Feb 13 2010, 02:41 PM
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I also deleted the heater loop, I cut off most of the steel tubing for the system then replaced them with a couple rubber elbows and my temp sensor housing. I still need to find some sexy hose clamps since this area will be pretty visible.
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Since I am not running A/C or P/S I cut down the accessory brackets so they are only set up to hold the Alternator, I lost 1/3 pound in the process.
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post Feb 14 2010, 12:35 AM
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Hey dont forget another 7-8 lbs in a lightened front pulley. You can find a good 2 lb one out there. Awesome manifold polish!
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post Feb 14 2010, 03:20 AM
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QUOTE(budman5201 @ Feb 13 2010, 11:35 PM) *

Hey dont forget another 7-8 lbs in a lightened front pulley. You can find a good 2 lb one out there. Awesome manifold polish!


That could be a good mod, off to NASIOC to do some research!
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post Feb 14 2010, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Feb 14 2010, 01:20 AM) *

QUOTE(budman5201 @ Feb 13 2010, 11:35 PM) *

Hey dont forget another 7-8 lbs in a lightened front pulley. You can find a good 2 lb one out there. Awesome manifold polish!


That could be a good mod, off to NASIOC to do some research!

Yep you definitely want to do the pulley. Did that on mine. I used the Cobb pulley with stock dimensions. Also makes it rev like a mutha.

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post Feb 14 2010, 08:25 AM
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small point.. the svx oil fill tube is shorter and points to the outside which might actually work better in our cars..plus cleans up the look some..
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post Feb 14 2010, 10:25 AM
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Hi Dana, I've been following your build with great interest, fantastic job so far. I just received this months MCN and their innovation of the month is the Oetiker clamp. These clamps are meant to be used for fuel injection fuel lines. Check them out at www.oetiker.com. They are very attractively priced as well...daveyboy
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post Feb 14 2010, 10:42 AM
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Thanks for all the tips guys! Lots of good info in the last three posts!
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post Feb 14 2010, 12:21 PM
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Does the original pulley not act as a harmonic balancer? If so, removing the weight could be detrimental.
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post Feb 14 2010, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Feb 14 2010, 11:21 AM) *

Does the original pulley not act as a harmonic balancer? If so, removing the weight could be detrimental.


There seem to be two trains of thought on the subject, half of the people on the subaru boards say that it is not a dampener, and that the boxer engine is pretty well balanced on its own. The other camp says it is a dampener and that it is a potentially disastrous mod to do.
On one hand I can see that the stock pulley was drilled to balance it which makes me think it should probably be there, also the STI has a heavier pulley to do something. On the other hand I have seen very little evidence of anything bad happening after a pulley swap and most people seem to like the quick revs. I can't really find anything definitive either way.
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post Feb 14 2010, 12:42 PM
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from my research, on another suby thread:

I finally got an answer directly from Subaru of America...I asked them if the crank pulley for the WRX and the STi is used as a harmonic damper/balancer. Here's the reply...


Hello F. Flores:

Thank you for your patience as I checked with our Technical Services
Department regarding your message below. They advised that the crank pulley
is a pulley and nothing else. It is not used as a harmonic damper/balancer.

Thanks for the opportunity to be of assistance. If you need any future
assistance, please feel free to contact us again.

Best wishes,

John J. Mergen
Subaru of America, Inc.


I think this topic can now end!:D
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post Feb 14 2010, 12:46 PM
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Awesome looking engine Ed, I remember welding up that intercooler kit for you like it was yesterday!
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post Feb 14 2010, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(d914 @ Feb 14 2010, 11:42 AM) *

from my research, on another suby thread:

I finally got an answer directly from Subaru of America...I asked them if the crank pulley for the WRX and the STi is used as a harmonic damper/balancer. Here's the reply...


Hello F. Flores:

Thank you for your patience as I checked with our Technical Services
Department regarding your message below. They advised that the crank pulley
is a pulley and nothing else. It is not used as a harmonic damper/balancer.

Thanks for the opportunity to be of assistance. If you need any future
assistance, please feel free to contact us again.

Best wishes,

John J. Mergen
Subaru of America, Inc.


I think this topic can now end!:D


I have seen that letter before, the only problem is the opinionated "subie masters" on nasioc totally tore it apart, not saying that it is wrong in any way, I googled "John J. Mergen" and he seems to know his stuff. It's just that those nasioc guys are really good at convincing you that your engine will blow up if you so much as breath on it. I have some time before the engine goes back in to decide if I am going to go for one or not. They sure are pretty though!
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post Feb 14 2010, 12:52 PM
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Good tip on the SVX filler Greg, I have been trying to figure out what to do to the odd WRX one!
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post Feb 14 2010, 01:27 PM
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here is a quick pick to see if this works for you..


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Yeah I have a long way to go before I see a running car..
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post Feb 14 2010, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(d914 @ Feb 14 2010, 12:27 PM) *

here is a quick pick to see if this works for you..


Nice! I need to pick one up, that is exactly what I was looking for!
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post Feb 14 2010, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Feb 14 2010, 10:46 AM) *

Awesome looking engine Ed, I remember welding up that intercooler kit for you like it was yesterday!

Yep seems like yesterday but it was in 2006! 2005 was my first ride in one of these conversions in your car in Vegas. I'll never forget that.

We did a ton of work cleanint/poslishing on this motor, and powdercoating everything we could. Unfortunately, after we got it in there you couldn't see much of it. But I know it's there...

One of the reasons for doing this was so the engine bay and underneath of the car would stay clean...NO OIL LEAKS.

So far I've put over 24k miles on my conversion with zero problems, except for one busted transaxle (my fault entirely....smoking those 11" tires is just too much fun).

Ed
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post Feb 14 2010, 04:26 PM
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Might be a dumb question from someone who isn't all that mechanically inclined, but with the fuel line connections rerouted to the front, do you risk catastrophe if the alternator belt breaks?
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post Feb 14 2010, 04:55 PM
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It doesn't take much inspection of a suby 2.0 or 2-5 damper to figgure out it is truly a damper. It has different pieces mounted in rubber. Being a oem damper means it is designed to work in the lower rpm ranges. ATI builds a nice aftermarket damper that works in a much broader range. Don't forget the oil pump is directly behind the damper any hormonics created will be directly sent through the internal part of the pump. Check out ATI's site. I originally tried to find a fluid damper like the one's on my sbcs but then read ati's info and decided to go that way. Who knows what all goes wrong on high strung subys but why screw with whats a known thing, all motors hotrodded need all the high tech mods you can afford to make them live longer. Also on the fi clamps you could use the one time use ones like what is on a harley. They are cleaner looking than a screw type clamp. You can get them at a harley shop or once you have some I bet they can be found online. You will also need the installation tool to squeeze them.

Oh yeah I have two light weight pulleys one is a perrin, I think the other also has a additional pretty pulley for I guess the alt. I will sell them if anyone is interested, they have never been on a running motor.

Also Grimspeed has thin or thick phoenolic sp? spacers to keep the engine heat out of the intake. I think I remember they are 3mm and 7 or 11mm the longer ones come with bolts. With those guys on you can put your hand on the intake on a hot day while the motor's running. Justin Grimm is the vender on nasioc.
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