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post Feb 14 2010, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(charliew @ Feb 14 2010, 02:55 PM) *

It doesn't take much inspection of a suby 2.0 or 2-5 damper to figgure out it is truly a damper. ...


All I know is I've been running mine with the light pulley for about 24k miles with no problems. Has not hurt performance, bottom end or top end.
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post Feb 14 2010, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(fat73 @ Feb 14 2010, 04:48 PM) *

QUOTE(charliew @ Feb 14 2010, 02:55 PM) *

It doesn't take much inspection of a suby 2.0 or 2-5 damper to figgure out it is truly a damper. ...


All I know is I've been running mine with the light pulley for about 24k miles with no problems. Has not hurt performance, bottom end or top end.
Ed


Like I said, there are two camps with the pulley probably both of which are right, luckily I have some time to figure this one out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Might be a dumb question from someone who isn't all that mechanically inclined, but with the fuel line connections rerouted to the front, do you risk catastrophe if the alternator belt breaks?

I think it is a valid concern, once I get everything together I will see if the wiring and fuel lines need some protection.
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post Feb 14 2010, 07:09 PM
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Hey dont forget this pretty filler from outfrontmotorsports.com, but i bet it adds a few ounces to stock plastic one.


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post Feb 14 2010, 07:22 PM
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So here is a good demonstration of how huge modern cars have gotten, or how tiny the 914 really is.

Here is a Ferrari F430 diffuser at home on an F430, looks pretty reasonably sized right?
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And here is the same diffuser on my 914, got a little bigger huh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Another couple shots, I am just mocking it up, fitting all of these new components into such a small car is getting to be tricky! I have ground out all of the cracks in the fiberglass and filled them, a little more sanding and it should be ready for paint. Keep in mind my car is sitting about a foot higher than it will when I lower the suspension and get it off of the wheel dollies, that thing is going to look even bigger dragging a couple inches off of the ground!
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post Feb 14 2010, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(budman5201 @ Feb 14 2010, 06:09 PM) *

Hey dont forget this pretty filler from outfrontmotorsports.com, but i bet it adds a few ounces to stock plastic one.

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post Feb 14 2010, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Feb 14 2010, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(d914 @ Feb 14 2010, 12:27 PM) *

here is a quick pick to see if this works for you..


Nice! I need to pick one up, that is exactly what I was looking for!


Hey Dana, I've got a filler tube on my SVX parts engine I'd donate to this great build....as long as I can visit it the next time I'm in Boulder. The cap is fubar but your current one probably fits.
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post Feb 14 2010, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Feb 14 2010, 06:27 PM) *

QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Feb 14 2010, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(d914 @ Feb 14 2010, 12:27 PM) *

here is a quick pick to see if this works for you..


Nice! I need to pick one up, that is exactly what I was looking for!


Hey Dana, I've got a filler tube on my SVX parts engine I'd donate to this great build....as long as I can visit it the next time I'm in Boulder. The cap is fubar but your current one probably fits.


That would be awesome! Thank you so much!
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post Feb 14 2010, 09:19 PM
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I was wondering when we would see the diffuser mock up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Feb 14 2010, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Feb 14 2010, 05:22 PM) *

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And here is the same diffuser on my 914, got a little bigger huh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Where'd you get that? I've been toying with doing the same / similar thing to my 914. Already have a fiberglass rear bumper I can butcher before the repaint.

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QUOTE(fat73 @ Feb 14 2010, 08:48 PM) *

Where'd you get that? I've been toying with doing the same / similar thing to my 914. Already have a fiberglass rear bumper I can butcher before the repaint.
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Cruise the Ferrari forums, it seems like a guy backs into something every other week with his diffuser. I saw a post a couple years ago about a guy who backed into a curb and rewarded himself with a new carbon diffuser, I asked him what happened to the old one and he had the body shop who had done the work send it to me for free, nice guy!
They really fit the 914 chassis pretty well, I was going to build my own but I think Ferrari has a little more experience with aerodynamics than I do!
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post Feb 14 2010, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Feb 14 2010, 05:32 PM) *

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Feb 14 2010, 06:27 PM) *

QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Feb 14 2010, 12:56 PM) *

QUOTE(d914 @ Feb 14 2010, 12:27 PM) *

here is a quick pick to see if this works for you..


Nice! I need to pick one up, that is exactly what I was looking for!


Hey Dana, I've got a filler tube on my SVX parts engine I'd donate to this great build....as long as I can visit it the next time I'm in Boulder. The cap is fubar but your current one probably fits.


That would be awesome! Thank you so much!

Dana I want your bike (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif)
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post Feb 14 2010, 11:18 PM
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Is your exhaust going to exit through the hole in the center of the diffuser?
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few random thoughts

I've wondered how a diffuser would work on a 914. Seems it would need to have a smooth underbelly across the whole car for them to work right. Since the back is open from the firewall back how could it work?

Since your car has a subaru motor I guess it's possible to make a pan across the whole thing. With the air cooled cars that doesn't seem possible.

This is assuming things work like I imagine they do.


I removed the rear valance and made an exhaust that tucks up out of the airflow. I kind of figured there is a hell of alot of air coming out the back end and the more open the better.

I have also wondered how it would work mounting a wing down where the diffuser is mounted. If done right it would almost go unnoticed. Of course it could be the air is in such turbulence it would never work.
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post Feb 15 2010, 12:00 AM
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I was planning on making an aluminum belly pan all the way from the front valence to the diffuser, With a little creative cutting I should be able to get the belly perfectly flat.
Other than the diffuser the rear of the car is going to be hexagonal expanded aluminum mesh. Probably some hidden led taillights to keep weight down and not block airflow out the back.
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QUOTE(oldschool @ Feb 14 2010, 09:31 PM) *

Dana I want your bike (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif)

Don't have a build thread for the cruiser, built the frame from scratch, hilariously terrifying to ride!
Here is the Cafe bike's Build Thread
I had no idea 36 horsepower could be so fun!
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QUOTE(championgt1 @ Feb 14 2010, 10:18 PM) *

Is your exhaust going to exit through the hole in the center of the diffuser?


I had thought about it, I think I will figure out the exhaust after everything is in place, center exhausts are pretty cool.
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post Feb 15 2010, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Feb 14 2010, 10:25 PM) *

QUOTE(championgt1 @ Feb 14 2010, 10:18 PM) *

Is your exhaust going to exit through the hole in the center of the diffuser?


I had thought about it, I think I will figure out the exhaust after everything is in place, center exhausts are pretty cool.

Yeah, center exhausts with a vent for the blow-off valve too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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I guess I need to look at that more thoroughly to see what the ferrari guys did in front of the diffuser. When you add a street bumper there is more room to get it all worked in. I will probably use a aluminum tube under the fg gt bumper I have but a added on diffuser valence was always a thought but it also seems like a great air catcher without a under pan at least from the oil pan back. Also to cover the rear of the tranny and cable shifter, that will be visible. I also will need some air movement over the ic in the engine compartment so side vents might be a needed thing and the air's gotta go somewhere. No blow off valve to atmosphere for me the short fat suby exhaust will be loud enough as it is, my sons sti blow off valve in the intake is still noticeable in a enclosed coldair box and his waste gate is still in the exhaust and on full throttle it's not quiet and very obvious for at least a mile and his 3 inch exhaust is at least 7 or 8 ft long.
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I would like to shed some light on the pulley/damper. It does indeed have a damper in it however it is not a harmonic damper. It is meant to lessen the shock when the a/c kicks on. I have had a lightened pulley on both of my Subaru engines and have had no problems other than when I turn the a/c on (this is in a Subaru not a 914). When the clutch engages the belt slips a second and you can feel it through the steering wheel. I don't use the a/c for this reason.
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Thinking about your diffuser on my drive today and saw a Honda Fit with one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) 05-07 I think. Cheaper than a Ferrari part, new (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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