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The Project Anklebiter Build Thread., 8/29 Lid latches and glamor shots... |
Ferg |
Sep 29 2010, 07:57 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Glad your Dog made it in the pic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Can't wait to meet her Sunday.
Ferg (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
Britain Smith |
Sep 29 2010, 10:24 AM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Great looking build.....your rear shock set up looks like what a friend of mine did to his race car....BTW this car is/was up for sale....unique center drive, hand built from the ground up 914 race car..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-9003-1285755835.jpg) Do you have any more pictures of this car, looks very interesting. Does it have custom control arms in the rear? -Britain |
Cupomeat |
Sep 29 2010, 03:15 PM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yes, Very interesting.
Do you have a picture of the shock actuator pivot arm and mount? Do you know what the ratio used was? LOVE THIS STUFF! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
jt914-6 |
Sep 29 2010, 04:54 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
Don't know about the actuator ratio or don't have a better pic....he was a little secretive about it but I'm sure he'd share info. He was a student of mine when I was instructing DE's. He's missed his calling in life. He built it from the ground up including body work & paint. PM me and I'll see if he'll share info. He's not a member of the world. Last time I talked to him it was for sale......
A older pic.... What it looks like now..... |
Britain Smith |
Sep 29 2010, 05:00 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Nice...if it is for sale, try to get some more pictures.
-Britain |
Steve |
Sep 29 2010, 05:03 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,728 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
Very nice car and amazing craftmanship, but I am always curious why someone puts so much money and time into a car and then sells it. Was the car not competitive? Hardship? Got bored of it and wanted to try something else? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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jt914-6 |
Sep 29 2010, 05:45 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
Very nice car and amazing craftmanship, but I am always curious why someone puts so much money and time into a car and then sells it. Was the car not competitive? Hardship? Got bored of it and wanted to try something else? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) He runs it in GT5 in PCA club racing and it has many wins and beats many others in higher classes. He's raced it and at least one other 914 for years. He is a family practice MD and I'm sure it has taken lots of his time. No hardship. As I said, he's missed his calling in life. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Rear control arms are modified stock. I think he just may be tired of racing and his "pit crew" daughter is older now and is not going to races. A couple of more pics |
Britain Smith |
Sep 29 2010, 08:54 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
Looks awesome. Where is it listed for sale?
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plymouth37 |
Sep 29 2010, 10:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Cool project, it's nice to see that a cantilever suspension like this has been done before on a 914, thanks for the pics!
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jt914-6 |
Sep 30 2010, 04:57 AM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
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brant |
Sep 30 2010, 07:56 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,795 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I ran wheel to wheel against your friends car. Nice car
that was about 1996 ish... heartland park, topeka kansas... spoke with him at length. The car was a lot less modified then. He that same front hood (metal) and gave me the idea of doing it to my hood. That is actually how I learned to weld too. After talking to your friend and building up the courage, I bought a welder and cut my hood. First thing I ever MIG welded... Twas not pretty... but with enough bondo it worked fine. brant |
RJMII |
Nov 20 2010, 02:50 PM
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Jim McIntosh Group: Members Posts: 3,125 Joined: 11-September 07 From: Sandy, Utah Member No.: 8,112 Region Association: None |
Dana... here's your thread. It's lonely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It wants more pictures of recent progress that you've done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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plymouth37 |
Nov 20 2010, 03:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Dana... here's your thread. It's lonely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It wants more pictures of recent progress that you've done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Funny you should say that, I found a hole in my overwhelming school schedule to work on the beast, I am working out the geometry of the cantilever suspension now, should be able to post progress soon! |
majkos |
Nov 20 2010, 09:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,370 Joined: 29-February 04 From: Mile High 914 Member No.: 1,729 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Dana... here's your thread. It's lonely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It wants more pictures of recent progress that you've done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Funny you should say that, I found a hole in my overwhelming school schedule to work on the beast, I am working out the geometry of the cantilever suspension now, should be able to post progress soon! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
Hontec |
Nov 20 2010, 11:19 PM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
Yep (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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plymouth37 |
Nov 21 2010, 12:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Here is what I have been playing with, it is a nice compact setup with a low cg. The springs are 400 lb/in and with the cantilever this is equivalent to about 250 lb/in at ride height and around 280 lb/in at full compression.
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Hontec |
Nov 21 2010, 12:29 AM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
Just my 2C: but by putting the pivotpoint of the cantilever that far inward, in your setup, most of the force is used to raise the complete coilover instead of using that force to compress it. I could be wrong but by glancing over your drawing, that's the first thing that springs to my mind.
Randall |
plymouth37 |
Nov 21 2010, 12:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
From what I can figure out, there is a good amount of force used to rotate the assembly but ultimately the spring should properly counteract the rotation of the cantilever arm. I could be wrong though, anybody else have a couple cents they want to pitch in?
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Hontec |
Nov 21 2010, 01:04 AM
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I see things..... Group: Members Posts: 261 Joined: 23-September 10 From: Netherlands Member No.: 12,210 Region Association: Europe |
Your upward movement of the trailing arm now results in a lateral force on the pivot arm. By moving the pivot point out and slightly tilting the triangle you get only vertical force as a result from trailing arm movement, this is what you want. The cantilever only translates this into lateral force onto the coilover. Avoiding slight up/down movement of the coilover is almost impossible, but in trying you wil get the best linear suspension travel.
Trying to find a pic, but doing this from my i-phone in a hotelroom...... Doesn't work Randall |
plymouth37 |
Nov 21 2010, 01:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I see what you are saying, I have played around with a couple designs that were closer to what you are talking about. My main issue with those designs i was that it forced me to mount the springs very high in the car in order to make the geometry work, which in turn was blocking the path for my exhaust to make it to the back of the car. Should have sucked it up and gone with double a-arms in the rear, would have made mounting shocks a lot easier.
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