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The Project Anklebiter Build Thread., 8/29 Lid latches and glamor shots... |
flipb |
Jul 11 2012, 09:17 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,766 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 10,752 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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effutuo101 |
Jul 11 2012, 10:10 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,735 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
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rockin! spectacular work Dana. |
trojanhorsepower |
Jul 11 2012, 06:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 867 Joined: 21-September 03 From: Marion, NC Member No.: 1,179 Region Association: None |
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plymouth37 |
Jul 11 2012, 08:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Satin black chassis paint is on! I found it sprays the best reduced by about 20%, I put on 2 light coats and got the coverage I was looking for.
I turned the heater in the garage up as far as it goes and will leave it to bake overnight. |
dlee6204 |
Jul 11 2012, 08:11 PM
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Howdy Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 30-April 06 From: Burnsville, NC Member No.: 5,956 |
Awesome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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KELTY360 |
Jul 11 2012, 10:07 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,089 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Sorry Dana, I can't resist...
That'll buff out! |
plymouth37 |
Jul 18 2012, 06:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I did a bunch of little tasks to get the engine ready to install.
First I replaced my thoroughly melted clutch and reinstalled my freshly turned flywheel. Then I installed a new Perrin light weight pulley, this took 3lbs 8.8oz off of the rotating mass of my engine, that aught to change it's revving characteristics! Next I installed the rear piece to the JWest shift linkage. Finally I mounted the rear tube chassis to the drivetrain. I even miraculously avoided scratching the new paint! |
Dasnowman |
Jul 18 2012, 09:27 PM
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You miss 100% of shots you don't take! Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 24-May 12 From: Tricities, B.C./ Lake Whatcom Member No.: 14,477 Region Association: Canada |
Then I installed a new Perrin light weight pulley, this took 3lbs 8.8oz off of the rotating mass of my engine, that aught to change it's revving characteristics! Being a Suby guy I would keep the factory one on it works as a great harmonic balancer, for the little differance you feel from the Perrin it's not worth the relaibility issue's you "WILL" have. Even with a B & B engine I still think the factory one is the best option. I know it's really easy way to drop some weight especially on a rotating mass but sometimes weight can be a benefit. I have read though your whole thread and love everything you have done and wish I had the dedication and know how to do the things you are doing. Cheers, Marlon Might putting something like this in my Teener was in my 07 Ltd STi. Built short block, TVG deleats, meth injection, AP2 engine managment, 380 WHP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i156.photobucket.com-14477-1342668472.1.jpg) |
plymouth37 |
Jul 18 2012, 10:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Being a Suby guy I would keep the factory one on it works as a great harmonic balancer, for the little differance you feel from the Perrin it's not worth the relaibility issue's you "WILL" have. Even with a B & B engine I still think the factory one is the best option. I know it's really easy way to drop some weight especially on a rotating mass but sometimes weight can be a benefit. Yeah, I have read the thousands of arguments on nasioc.com Here is a good one regarding the aftermarket pulleys, some guys (myself included) are of the opinion that they are safe to use, some guys think the engine will grenade if you remove the stock one. I have a couple friends with over 50k miles on their pulleys without experiencing problems, hopefully I will be as lucky as they have been. I figure I will try this one out and if I am not happy with it I can always swap back, thanks for the advice! |
Mike Bellis |
Jul 18 2012, 10:54 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Less rotating mass is cool to a point. My rotary setup has a lightened flywheel. It gets a little "jumpy" at low speed low throttle driving. A heavier flywheel would help prevent this but would make the wind up slower.
There are pros and cons to rotating mass, especially when our cars are so light... |
plymouth37 |
Jul 18 2012, 11:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I think this is one of the components that I will just have to wait until the R&D portion of the build to see if I like it.
Right now I am sticking to the theory that lighter is better, if my driving experience starts to tell me otherwise I will reevaluate. |
bulitt |
Jul 19 2012, 02:49 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
You will know real quick if its causing a balance issue and it will only grenade if you then choose to ignore it. IMHO
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lotus_65 |
Jul 19 2012, 03:43 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,608 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I think you should make a mold of that tub as is in preparation for making copies out of carbon fiber...hmmmmmm.....just saying... i saw all the pieces disassembled and thought the exact same thing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/assimilate.gif) |
fat73 |
Jul 19 2012, 06:18 AM
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W9R1 Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 7-May 05 From: tampa,fl Member No.: 4,043 Region Association: South East States |
Then I installed a new Perrin light weight pulley, this took 3lbs 8.8oz off of the rotating mass of my engine, that aught to change it's revving characteristics! Being a Suby guy I would keep the factory one on it works as a great harmonic balancer, for the little differance you feel from the Perrin it's not worth the relaibility issue's you "WILL" have. Even with a B & B engine I still think the factory one is the best option. I know it's really easy way to drop some weight especially on a rotating mass but sometimes weight can be a benefit. I have read though your whole thread and love everything you have done and wish I had the dedication and know how to do the things you are doing. Cheers, Marlon Might putting something like this in my Teener was in my 07 Ltd STi. Built short block, TVG deleats, meth injection, AP2 engine managment, 380 WHP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i156.photobucket.com-14477-1342668472.1.jpg) I beg to differ about the pulley. I have a lighweight COBB Performance pulley on my '73 914/2003 WRX conversion with 25k on it (the engine has 58k now). No problems and it hasn't been pampered in terms of how I run it. Ed |
stickerdick |
Aug 17 2012, 01:25 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 17-August 12 From: Florida Member No.: 14,812 Region Association: South East States |
I just got through going over your build, very impressive. I am in the process of building a tube chassis based on a914 drivetrain for a landspeed buggy and I find your ideas for the rear setup of your car to be very helpful for what I am doing. Thank you for being so talented and detailed with your build. Can't wait to see what you do next.
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charliew |
Sep 29 2012, 11:32 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
It's not the longetivity of the pulley that is the question. The oil pump is right behind the pulley. The balancer is there to smooth out the revolutions. ATI, check out their faqs. Most suby beginners crater a motor from many different things, mostly thinking the oil level is good between changes because it aways was in the na honda they dogged before the wrx they moved on to. Subys are a different motor entirely and were originally meant for under 7k operation in the snow but the engineers didn't cut the cost of the motor by using a solid light weight pulley, wonder why? Most hard hotrodded subys don't make it far enough to find out if the lightweight pully helped cause the destruction. Some people even have cel issues from lightweight flywheels at idle.
Unabomber only writes what he reads, he is not a engine builder or a mechanic. All you need to do is look at a suby stock balancer and you will see the rubber and metal parts of a balancer built to try and smooth hormonics out, but like most oem stuff it's really only designed to smooth it out where the normal guy uses the motor, not at the rpms a high reving hotrodder uses. Thats why nascar uses ATI balancers. You think they aren't looking for every hp they can find? I guess light pulleys do look better than a stock hormonic balancer though. |
plymouth37 |
Sep 30 2012, 06:06 PM
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David J |
Sep 30 2012, 06:26 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 18-June 12 From: Dallas Member No.: 14,577 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Like I stated earlier, I have made my decision and am sticking with it, I have done my research and based on what I know I feel comfortable running a light weight pulley. Thank you for your input but I am sticking with what I have learned from my experiences within the Subaru community. If I blow my engine because of this I will let you say I told you so (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). Here is a pretty picture to get everyone back on topic... That is one awesome 914! Congratulations for your vision and your skills. |
rnellums |
Sep 30 2012, 07:14 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
New Background... Check.
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Jeff Hail |
Sep 30 2012, 09:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,141 Joined: 3-May 07 From: LA/ CA Member No.: 7,712 |
Dana
Always like your style, form and fabrication skills. Without going back on your entire thread what did you do in the highlighed area to beef up the area where the lower tube ties into the remaining uni-body? I see that plate that drops down .. just wondering whats behind it. Is it tied into another tube or boxed in? The angle of the pic's gets my brain wandering. Attached image(s) |
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