Continuing Work on My 914 EZ30R Twin Turbo Conversion, 1/31/12, nothing new just started working on the car again pic will follow |
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Continuing Work on My 914 EZ30R Twin Turbo Conversion, 1/31/12, nothing new just started working on the car again pic will follow |
TwinTurbo914 |
Jun 13 2008, 11:21 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 29-May 03 From: NorCal Member No.: 752 Region Association: Northern California |
Well its still subaru powered, but ive made the swap over to the EZ30R H6 3.0 Subaru motor Read on
Hey Guys I finally got some time and the motivation to start working on my project car again. I started it a few years ago but, got side tracked on a few other project but I have decided to come back to it and finish it. I all started 3-4 years ago when i got my first subaru wrx and decided i loved the power plant and thought what better way to add a lot of power to a light car. So i started with getting a twin turbo ej20 subaru engine from japan. I also bought the kennedy engineering adapter kit. I worked on the car for awhile, then got busy working on other project and kind of abanoned it. But no im back working on it about 5 nights a week. But lucky I did take a break from it cause i decided to make to big changes to the car( since i can afford them now. Im going to use the stock subaru trans, with a bremar 2wd kit. Im going to use big brakes all the way around, i have some big reds for the front, and im goin to do the rear also. Car is getting a full cage, and all longs and suspension pickups are going to be plated and reinforced. And i decided to swap over to the single turbo set up for simplicity of tuning, and more maximum power output. ( im eventually swaping in a built 2.5 STI engine) So i thought id start a thread to show my progress on my car, and will glady answer any questions along the way if anyone is looking to do a similar swap. Seems like the subaru conversion has gained a lot of popularity since i started my project quiet awhile ago. Started working on it about one and a half weeks ago, and so far got my interior stripped out, and gonna pick up my material for my cage next week. I got my transmission mounts fabricated, and my engine mount fabricated, and now im working on reinforcing the shock tower and such where my engine mount attaches to. Here's some picks of my progress hope you all enjoy (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269359998.1.jpg) Here the engine sitting in the car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269359999.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360000.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360000.4.jpg) Transmission mounts, there not done yet still gotta cap all the ends on them and powder coat them and such (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360001.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360001.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360002.7.jpg)My exhasut header and big uppipe (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360002.8.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360004.9.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360004.10.jpg) Engine mount ill show some pics of it installed later its out right now as im tig welding it up right now (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360005.11.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360005.12.jpg) My stripped out interior, getting ready to prep it to plate the longs and start my cage (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-752-1269360006.13.jpg) |
jd74914 |
Jun 15 2008, 08:02 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,814 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
Very cool. Keep us posted on your prgress. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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scotty914 |
Jun 15 2008, 09:18 PM
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suby torque rules Group: Members Posts: 1,528 Joined: 20-July 03 From: maryland, the land of 25 year Member No.: 924 |
that engine mount design looks like i have seen it before
and on cutting the rear trunk out.... wow i have thought about upgrading mine to a suby tranny, but first i need to get it back on the road |
rick 918-S |
Jun 15 2008, 10:48 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,783 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
that engine mount design looks like i have seen it before and on cutting the rear trunk out.... wow i have thought about upgrading mine to a suby tranny, but first i need to get it back on the road SCOTTY! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Ya looks kind of like your mount. You were the pioneer. Before the Vegas guys did theirs. I would sleeve those mount bolts or they will start to crush the tubing and either fall out of shear off. Oh and use grade 8's. |
TwinTurbo914 |
Jun 16 2008, 01:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 29-May 03 From: NorCal Member No.: 752 Region Association: Northern California |
Yah Im going to sleeve and cap everything when im done with them, just wanted to get the rough construction done first. Im gonna powder coat them also.
Worked on the Car a little bit more this weekend, i stripped all the insulation/sound deadening from the floor, and worked on getting the dash out, im gonna soda blast the whole interior of the car, before i start work on my cage, and boxing my longs. I also started work on mocking up my intercooler setup. I'll post some more pics soon. |
rick 918-S |
Jun 16 2008, 09:16 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,783 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
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kylehall21 |
Jun 27 2008, 10:16 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 22-July 06 From: Claremont, Ca Member No.: 6,485 |
Any twin turbo parts that you want to get rid of? I got a jdm motor as well but I'm missing parts .....
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TwinTurbo914 |
Jul 7 2008, 05:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 29-May 03 From: NorCal Member No.: 752 Region Association: Northern California |
Any twin turbo parts that you want to get rid of? I got a jdm motor as well but I'm missing parts ..... Sorry no Parts, they are all long gone. I sold the whole turbo set up, the twin turbo setup is know to have an inherant dead spot when the second turbo comes in at about 3500rpm. Swap over to a single turbo, much easier for future tuning (like a larger turbo) and easier engine packaging clearance wise. Let me know if you need any parts for a single turbo system i got some stuff laying around. I have been hard at work on my car, i got the whole interior stripped out, and all the floor insulation pulled up. And i got a chassis strenghtening kit, and i punched all the holes in the pieces good thing i had a sheet metal hole puncher ( I hate drilling holes LOL). So this week im gonna soda blast the complete interior of the car to have it all nice and clean and to bare metal for when i make all the plating for the longs. And im gonna soda blast my inner fender wells and my engine compartment. Ill get some new pics up in the next day or so of my progress so far |
TwinTurbo914 |
Jan 8 2009, 10:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 29-May 03 From: NorCal Member No.: 752 Region Association: Northern California |
Well i have not given any updates lately as things have just been crazy lately, work has been very busy and i moved into a new house, but i have been working on the car off and on as i get time. I have basically all the plating made up for the interior of the car for the longs, so i just have to soda blast the interior and drill all the holes in my plating and weld everything in, then i can move on to the next part of the project.
I have made a Major decision to change the power plant Slightly on my project. Im Gonna sell the subie 4 cyl, and im gonna buy a EZ30R subie Six Cylinder. They are a 3.0 flat six, and its only 1.5" longer than the subie four, plus they have variable valve timing and variable valve lift and there 250HP stock N/A. So More Cubes, and more of that porsche sound. Oh and its still gonna be turbo charged possibly twin turbo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). Ill update soon with some pics, as everything has calmed down and im able to work on the car a few nights a week now. Stay tuned more to come |
ONTHEGRIND |
Jan 8 2009, 11:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 286 Joined: 10-November 08 From: California Member No.: 9,738 Region Association: None |
Well i have not given any updates lately as things have just been crazy lately, work has been very busy and i moved into a new house, but i have been working on the car off and on as i get time. I have basically all the plating made up for the interior of the car for the longs, so i just have to soda blast the interior and drill all the holes in my plating and weld everything in, then i can move on to the next part of the project. I have made a Major decision to change the power plant Slightly on my project. Im Gonna sell the subie 4 cyl, and im gonna buy a EZ30R subie Six Cylinder. They are a 3.0 flat six, and its only 1.5" longer than the subie four, plus they have variable valve timing and variable valve lift and there 250HP stock N/A. So More Cubes, and more of that porsche sound. Oh and its still gonna be turbo charged possibly twin turbo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). Ill update soon with some pics, as everything has calmed down and im able to work on the car a few nights a week now. Stay tuned more to come LOOKIN GOOD.. I just did a top end for a Subie, I dream a a 4 valve turbo aircooled 914.. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/xr8ted/100_2049.jpg) |
EVILGENIUS13 |
Jan 9 2009, 03:56 AM
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Well i have not given any updates lately as things have just been crazy lately, work has been very busy and i moved into a new house, but i have been working on the car off and on as i get time. I have basically all the plating made up for the interior of the car for the longs, so i just have to soda blast the interior and drill all the holes in my plating and weld everything in, then i can move on to the next part of the project. I have made a Major decision to change the power plant Slightly on my project. Im Gonna sell the subie 4 cyl, and im gonna buy a EZ30R subie Six Cylinder. They are a 3.0 flat six, and its only 1.5" longer than the subie four, plus they have variable valve timing and variable valve lift and there 250HP stock N/A. So More Cubes, and more of that porsche sound. Oh and its still gonna be turbo charged possibly twin turbo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). Ill update soon with some pics, as everything has calmed down and im able to work on the car a few nights a week now. Stay tuned more to come LOOKIN GOOD.. I just did a top end for a Subie, I dream a a 4 valve turbo aircooled 914.. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/xr8ted/100_2049.jpg) Some guys in australia have put subie heads on type 1 and type 4's. The bore centers are the same. |
TwinTurbo914 |
Jan 12 2009, 10:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 29-May 03 From: NorCal Member No.: 752 Region Association: Northern California |
Well I worked on cleaning up in the shop a little this weekend, my dad is not exactly the tidiest of workers, haha. But anyways I was able to clear enough space to get the car outside so i could soda blast the interior and part of the engine compartment. I was such a gorgeous day, almost 60 degrees and sunny. Now I can get all my boxing welded onto the rails. Ill update tomorrow with some pics.
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TwinTurbo914 |
Jan 13 2009, 11:10 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 29-May 03 From: NorCal Member No.: 752 Region Association: Northern California |
Well i have Been working away at the car when ever i get a chance. And i have made the final decision that im Gonna change over to the subaru 3.0 Six so if any one is looking for a Good EJ20 Subie engine, i have one along with a good stainless header and uppipe. I also have a kennedy adapter and clutch for the 914 transaxle, as im using the subie trans. Lemme know if anyone is interested.
Heres a few pics of the Interior and engine compartment. I got most of the interior blasted and some of the engine compartment done. I'll probably do more this weekend. I just gonna finish removing some of the seam sealer. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics105.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics104.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics103.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics102.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics101.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics100.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics099.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics098.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics097.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics096.jpg) Last night I got my girl friend Erin in the shop with me, she wanted to learn how to weld, she's been bugging me since the sema show when she got to try a demo welder at the Lincoln booth. So hopefully she gets hooked and will want to help me on my projects, lol. (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics093.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics094.jpg) Here's a Pic of the hell hole area, it looks really good very few spots that had rusted thru (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ForceFedGN/CameraPics106.jpg) This week ill finish stripping the seam sealer, and then work on prepping the plating i made for the longs, and drill all the holes in them, and them get them welded in. Them ill work on making the pieces to box in the rails in the engine compartment. Stay tuned more to come |
quadracerx |
Jan 13 2009, 09:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 426 Joined: 3-July 06 From: WA Member No.: 6,366 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
[b]DUDE....your like liv'in the dream...LOL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hot girlfriend who wants to learn to weld and help with your projects....Keep her at all costs....Just curious on a couple things...keeping the Subaru trans from the six? Love to know how your gonna adapt that to the suspension....2nd not that I could afford it but what is the Subaru EJ worth?
Thanks...and keep up the great work... Steve |
charliew |
Jan 13 2009, 09:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
Put the suby in that Izetta? isetta?
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turnaround89 |
Jan 13 2009, 10:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 671 Joined: 17-May 08 From: Rockford, Illinois Member No.: 9,067 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Nice work. Very cool, wish my hell hole looked like that, mine was way worse.
Can ask why your able to cut out the area in the trunk? I understand that it will help with engine fitting, but doesn't that part of the trunk add some structure to the car, or maybe it doesn't add any? |
Chris Pincetich |
Jan 13 2009, 10:13 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Yes, that trunk section braces between shock towers...something besides the horzontal sheetmetal should be there to avoid flex.
Dude - where in NorCal are you at? My 914 is in a garage in El Cerrito and I currently reside in Woodacre - both near SF Bay. My daily driver is a Subaru, and if I ever get in a wreck, guess where that motor is going? I love watching projects like this! Keep it up! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
TwinTurbo914 |
Jan 14 2009, 10:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 29-May 03 From: NorCal Member No.: 752 Region Association: Northern California |
[b]DUDE....your like liv'in the dream...LOL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hot girlfriend who wants to learn to weld and help with your projects....Keep her at all costs....Just curious on a couple things...keeping the Subaru trans from the six? Love to know how your gonna adapt that to the suspension....2nd not that I could afford it but what is the Subaru EJ worth Thanks...and keep up the great work... Steve Yah she is Definatly a Keeper, she has been putting up with me for over three years now. She will help me when ever i need help as long as I ask nicely. Haha. Yes im keeping the subaru Trans when i transfer over to the Six, i already have the Transaxle mount fabricated, i just have to finish them up ( sleave the bolt hole and box the ends). Further up in the thread i have some pics of them. The only major thing is i have to either have custom axle's made or some adapter flanges made to go from the subaru stub axle to the 914 axle. I would like to get about $800 for the engine, i have all the acessories and brackets for it. I also have the turbo header and turbo up pipe for it i would like about $400 for them. And i even have a Kennedy adapter and clutch kit to go from the Subie engine to the 901 transaxle, i gotta check what i paid for it. I only bolted it up once, then changed to the subie trans. But I will take less then I paid for it of course. Put the suby in that Izetta Not quite enough room in the Isetta to do a Subie Swap:D, that one is my dad's project, he's doing a full resto on it. |
TwinTurbo914 |
Jan 14 2009, 10:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 73 Joined: 29-May 03 From: NorCal Member No.: 752 Region Association: Northern California |
Nice work. Very cool, wish my hell hole looked like that, mine was way worse. Can ask why your able to cut out the area in the trunk? I understand that it will help with engine fitting, but doesn't that part of the trunk add some structure to the car, or maybe it doesn't add any? Well I cut the trunk for a couple of reasons, One it made it alot eaiser to fit the engine. But it would kit no problem with the trunk wall, it would just need to be notched a little for the turbo on the passenger side. and two the car is gonna get a full cage with full trunk bracing and a the cage will completely tie the shock towers together. More on that to come, once i get longs plated and the engine compartment frame rails plated. Yes, that trunk section braces between shock towers...something besides the horzontal sheetmetal should be there to avoid flex. Dude - where in NorCal are you at? My 914 is in a garage in El Cerrito and I currently reside in Woodacre - both near SF Bay. My daily driver is a Subaru, and if I ever get in a wreck, guess where that motor is going? I love watching projects like this! Keep it up! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I live Near Lake Camanche in a small town called Valley Springs. Im about 20 miles East of Lodi if you know where that is |
charliew |
Jan 14 2009, 12:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
Do you know about the suby to bus adapters from porscharu? There are some people getting together another order for them. They get a price break on ten sets or more. I have them and they are very nice. The bus is a larger diameter cv. I am going with 911 axle stubs and they are the same size as the bus cvs so it will be bus on both ends but you can use 914 on the outer by adding a thin washer type spacer from what I remember, the 914 cv is thinner. Paint fumes cloud my memory a little. I am glad you are going to a suby six, I really like the six sound better especially if it's spinning about 7k and there is all that wasted space in front of the four. Seems like I remember the 6 hangs down a lot more than the 4 though. I made a 8qt pan with parts from kennedy and used some swinging gates from a speedway sbc cheater kit for my suby 4 and it's only about 4.5 deep. I also modified the stainless header to be the same depth for the ground clearance. The six is a lot different though.
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