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Wide wheels/ narrow body revisited |
spotontheroad |
Aug 9 2008, 04:44 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 25-July 08 From: Worcestershire, England Member No.: 9,353 Region Association: England |
I found a previous posting where someone asked "what was the widest wheel that could be fitted to a 914 with standard fenders/wings" and the concensus was that 7" will fit on the rear. What I would like to know is: what is the measurement of offset of such wheels and also what is the widest that can be snsibly fitted to the front and again, what offset?
Has anyone fitted Minilites to their 914 and if so what spec? All replies gratefully received. Keith |
r_towle |
Aug 9 2008, 04:48 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,658 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
you could probably fit 8 inch or more rims...it would all depend upon the tire profile.
Hoosiers, khumos, etc have a pretty significant cantalever profile so the tire sticks out quite a bit past the rim... Wheels are different from wheel/tire combos... Rich |
Racer |
Aug 9 2008, 04:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Most Porsche 7x15" wheels have a 23mm offset. The rare 911R 7x15 has a 49mm offset iirc.
The fronts have plenty of room to fit a 7" wide rim. Minilite makes a 6.5x15 that is a great fit on a narrow bodied car. Without massaging fender lips (and sometimes more) fitting more than a 205 width tire can be trouble. For most manufacturers, a 205 width tire gives you an 8" cross section. That is HUGE compared to stock (165mm) which is about 6" of cross section You don't mention if you are running 4-bolt or 5 bolt wheels. Minilites can be found in either configuration. The 7x15 Porsche wheels are from the 944/911 series and are 5-bolt. |
pete-stevers |
Aug 9 2008, 05:00 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,645 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
i have pulled my fenders.. about an inch and a half
i run a 16x225,50 on 16x7 fuches |
brant |
Aug 9 2008, 05:50 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,824 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I found a previous posting where someone asked "what was the widest wheel that could be fitted to a 914 with standard fenders/wings" and the concensus was that 7" will fit on the rear. What I would like to know is: what is the measurement of offset of such wheels and also what is the widest that can be snsibly fitted to the front and again, what offset? Has anyone fitted Minilites to their 914 and if so what spec? All replies gratefully received. Keith to truly fit a "standard fender/wing".... one that has not been stretch or molested, your much more likely to get a 6inch wheel some times a 7 will work especially if its the fabled 7R wheel but a 6 is a much safer bet. brant |
914werke |
Aug 9 2008, 06:21 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 11,029 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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mskala |
Aug 9 2008, 07:18 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,927 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
The best offset for the rear is about 36mm, which is actually what you'll find on all
the 6" fuchs and cookie cutters. If you want at least a 205 wide tire without mangling your fenders this is about as good as it gets without having to test fit or adjust camber or have stiff springs, etc. The next closest thing (5-lug porsche pattern) is the early boxster rear wheels, which are 7x16 40mm offset and worked well for me. Other than that you'll have to go custom or aftermarket, or get 911R 49mm offset ($$$), or late 7x15 phone dials (52mm) and use a spacer. |
drgchapman |
Aug 9 2008, 08:00 PM
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Current Stable Group: NoClassifiedAccess Posts: 922 Joined: 20-September 04 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 2,789 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Just finished going through this whole thing.
I ran 6x16 fuchs with 205/16/45 Hoosiers for autocross. Fit well, looked good. Not enough tiar for the 3.2. I wanted more tiar....had to have wheels custom made. Added 1" to the inside bead and used spacers to clear the fenders and tub. Net 7" wheel, deep offset with spacers. Absolute maximum tire and wheel with the 205 Hoosiers. Another tiar might go as much as 215 or so as the Hoosiers are a little wider than advertised. Said screw it, put the Porsche flares on, now have 9" rears with 245/50/16 and 8" fronts with 225/50/16's running Hoosier DOT A's. What a difference! |
orange914 |
Aug 9 2008, 09:21 PM
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DanT |
Aug 9 2008, 09:33 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
I ran 7" custom steelies on the Puttputt. IIRC the back spacing was either 5 or 5.5" and I ran a 1/2" spacer on the rear and 3/4" spacer on the front. Ran 205x50x15 Kumho V710s (very fat tire). My fenders lips were rolled and the fenders were massaged to accept the wheel/tire combination.
Yes 7s will fit if you do your homework and work on the fenders a bit. I used to run 7x15 fuchs with 225s on the rear of my 914-6. Here are a couple of pics. white 914-6 is wearing 7x16s in this pic with 205s up front and 225s in the rear. Attached image(s) |
DanT |
Aug 9 2008, 09:38 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
another shot of the 7x15s on the Phoenix Red car.
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GaroldShaffer |
Aug 9 2008, 09:47 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,628 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
Minilite makes a 6.5x15 that is a great fit on a narrow bodied car. Without massaging fender lips (and sometimes more) fitting more than a 205 width tire can be trouble. For most manufacturers, a 205 width tire gives you an 8" cross section. That is HUGE compared to stock (165mm) which is about 6" of cross section You don't mention if you are running 4-bolt or 5 bolt wheels. Minilites can be found in either configuration. The 7x15 Porsche wheels are from the 944/911 series and are 5-bolt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I run the 6.5 x 15 minilites with 205 on them. My rear fender lips are rolled, but even if the weren't they still would fit. Attached image(s) |
brant |
Aug 10 2008, 12:47 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,824 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
repeating myself...
but you'll find 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20 that get 7inch wheels under truly stock fenders... 6 inch wheels are the safer bet for truly stock fenders. (especially in 15 inch diameters) |
plymouth37 |
Aug 10 2008, 12:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,825 Joined: 24-May 05 From: Snoqualmie, WA Member No.: 4,138 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
repeating myself... but you'll find 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20 that get 7inch wheels under truly stock fenders... 6 inch wheels are the safer bet for truly stock fenders. (especially in 15 inch diameters) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Before I got my flares I could fit a 7" under one stock rear fender but only a 6" under the other, and no the car was never wrecked, go figure... Stick with 6 inchers if you don't want to mess with your stock fenders. |
jcd914 |
Aug 10 2008, 01:33 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
Way back when I Auto-x'd my 914 (it ran back then). I had a195/60 15's on 6" & 7" cookie cutters as street tires. The rears just barly cleared and the fender lips were rolled and I maxed the neg camber. I ran 205/50 15's on 5.5" gas burners for auto-x.
Not so good pics of a 195/60 on 7" cookie cutter on the rear. From the side: Looking up: Jim |
slow914 |
Aug 10 2008, 04:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 5-February 08 From: Kirkland, WA Member No.: 8,671 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn316/legendpride/000_0078.jpg)
15x7 0 offset, had to pit 195s on and just barely roll the fenders |
jtf914 |
Aug 10 2008, 07:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 428 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Burlington, CT Member No.: 58 Region Association: North East States |
16x6 with 205/50's could have fit 205/55's but I don't think I could have ever fit 16x7 unless it was a custom wheel...
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IronHillRestorations |
Aug 11 2008, 07:01 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,792 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
Most of the 911 Fuchs wheels that are fitted to 914's have a 4.75" backspacing, the 7" 911R wheels have 5.75 backspacing.
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mskala |
Aug 11 2008, 09:26 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,927 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
If you have decent negative camber, you may be able to fit
215/40/16 Kumho V710, which are 8.6" wide, if you have offset of 35mm on 7x16 wheel. Attached image(s) |
mskala |
Aug 11 2008, 09:26 PM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,927 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
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