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| cary |
 Oct 27 2014, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Oct 27 2014, 04:21 AM)  QUOTE(siverson @ Oct 27 2014, 12:44 AM) FU air box blower thing. You are a huge pain in the ass!!! (90 minutes... 1 of 2 bolts installed) -Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Yeah, I've never felt like this about anything I've attempted on my 'teener. Not laughing at you, more in sympathy, but this gave me a good laugh this morning. Good luck, hope you get it done. I was going to write something last night too. What a PIA. |
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| jack20 |
Apr 10 2015, 05:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 413 Joined: 7-November 14 From: Granite Bay, CA Member No.: 18,099 Region Association: Northern California
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Took me nearly 2 hours to get one bolt in and then the nut fell into the box on the other...had to start over. An hour and a half later ,nothing.
Why is this thing so difficult to install? Any tricks?? |
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| gereed75 |
Apr 10 2015, 09:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,310 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(jack20 @ Apr 10 2015, 07:57 PM) Took me nearly 2 hours to get one bolt in and then the nut fell into the box on the other...had to start over. An hour and a half later ,nothing. Why is this thing so difficult to install? Any tricks?? Not sure this has been mentioned.... I found it necessary to loosen all of the wiper drive arm holding hardware so that the wiper arms could "float" in the wiper drive post holes. This little bit of movement of the wiper assembly really helped getting the blower box in. |
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| jack20 |
Apr 11 2015, 12:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 413 Joined: 7-November 14 From: Granite Bay, CA Member No.: 18,099 Region Association: Northern California
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Thanks! I'll try anything...
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| 914_teener |
Apr 11 2015, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Oct 27 2014, 04:21 AM) QUOTE(siverson @ Oct 27 2014, 12:44 AM) FU air box blower thing. You are a huge pain in the ass!!! (90 minutes... 1 of 2 bolts installed) -Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Yeah, I've never felt like this about anything I've attempted on my 'teener. Not laughing at you, more in sympathy, but this gave me a good laugh this morning. Good luck, hope you get it done. I have the friggin horror story of all that I have had with my car with that friggen thing. After 6 six years of sitting on a replacement I finally got around to it. After two weekends of cleaning, gas tank rehab and multiple cuts from the cables ect. got it together. Worked one time and then the little clip that holds the fan lever cable broke...... Still pissed off about it. Piss on it...I'll open the window. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
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| 914_teener |
Apr 11 2015, 01:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,248 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Tricks:
Lots of patience. |
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| falcor75 |
Apr 11 2015, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(914_teener @ Apr 11 2015, 09:16 PM) Tricks: Lots of patience. I ran out of patience....couldnt get the box to slide in without the new top seal sliding out of its position due to it being a hair or two too large. Had to slide in the passenger end first and then force the drivers side in then jam the whole assembly upwards with a crowbar while a friend entered the screws from the side..... f#ciking pita..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
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| 914werke |
Apr 11 2015, 03:02 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,920 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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One trick I learned after doing this a *FEW* times was to get a good set of snap ring pliers and remove the spring clips securing the lower to upper section of the box.
Carefull...! After 30+ years that plastic/Bakelite is VERY fragile. Once separated it makes it a bit easier to remove install and maneuver the parts around. |
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| arkitect |
Apr 5 2016, 11:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 3-March 10 From: Stockton, CA Member No.: 11,426 Region Association: None |
I added some notes to a couple of picts for additional info.
Dave 
Heater___Ventilation_control.pdf ( 33.13k )
Number of downloads: 624
Heater___Ventilation_control_2.pdf ( 84.24k )
Number of downloads: 607 |
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| porschetub |
Apr 6 2016, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Oct 28 2014, 12:21 AM) QUOTE(siverson @ Oct 27 2014, 12:44 AM) FU air box blower thing. You are a huge pain in the ass!!! (90 minutes... 1 of 2 bolts installed) -Steve (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Yeah, I've never felt like this about anything I've attempted on my 'teener. Not laughing at you, more in sympathy, but this gave me a good laugh this morning. Good luck, hope you get it done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) its a crap job,to be honest mine isn't completely back together,tryed to screw the control levers back on to the back dash and realized I didn't have 3 hands (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Wee tip,had one cable binding up on one lever ...really firm when fully open,removed cable and found it tight when not attached to both ends. Had a VW golf bonnent release cable lying around so cut that to length and fitted it .....smooth as,these cables have nylon liners and seem to work better than the stock ones. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
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| arkitect |
Apr 6 2016, 06:12 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 3-March 10 From: Stockton, CA Member No.: 11,426 Region Association: None |
I need to find two cables to complete my project. I had one with the end broke off, tried to rebend the s curve end on the control side back in...the wire is so brittle, it just breaks off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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| Darren C |
Apr 6 2016, 06:26 AM
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QUOTE(falcor75 @ Apr 11 2015, 07:53 PM) QUOTE(914_teener @ Apr 11 2015, 09:16 PM) Tricks: Lots of patience. I ran out of patience....couldnt get the box to slide in without the new top seal sliding out of its position due to it being a hair or two too large. Had to slide in the passenger end first and then force the drivers side in then jam the whole assembly upwards with a crowbar while a friend entered the screws from the side..... f#ciking pita..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Yep, had the same issue. Bought a new seal and grille for the top from 914rubber, and had a real fight getting it in. I found it easier to glue the seal onto the grille with a little superglue then use liquid soap on the sides and top to get it to slide in. Otherwise it all jams up and everything falls out of place. The new seals need compressing to get the bolts in from each side so in the end I had to use a softwood lever under the box to force it upwards enough to get the two bolts in each side (risking breaking the plastic box). Not an easy job working alone. Maybe Mark from 914rubber can chip in with some advice? It's almost as if the new top seals need to be a softer rubber compound or slightly more like a foam rubber to still expand and seal, but make it much easier to compress???? |
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| 76-914 |
Apr 6 2016, 04:40 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,634 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(arkitect @ Apr 6 2016, 05:12 AM) I need to find two cables to complete my project. I had one with the end broke off, tried to rebend the s curve end on the control side back in...the wire is so brittle, it just breaks off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Dave I think I have a set left over from my conversion. You talking about those 3 cables about 18" long? |
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| bandjoey |
Apr 7 2016, 07:19 AM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,930 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
One week a few years ago I restored my box. It took a week to reinstall it. So I'm deathly afraid of even thinking about touching it again. Some of you talented people should come up with a modern metal box. You'll be rich (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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| SA-914 |
Apr 7 2016, 07:49 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 128 Joined: 30-June 14 From: San Antonio,tx Member No.: 17,566 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Darren C @ Apr 6 2016, 07:26 AM) QUOTE(falcor75 @ Apr 11 2015, 07:53 PM) QUOTE(914_teener @ Apr 11 2015, 09:16 PM) Tricks: Lots of patience. I ran out of patience....couldnt get the box to slide in without the new top seal sliding out of its position due to it being a hair or two too large. Had to slide in the passenger end first and then force the drivers side in then jam the whole assembly upwards with a crowbar while a friend entered the screws from the side..... f#ciking pita..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Yep, had the same issue. Bought a new seal and grille for the top from 914rubber, and had a real fight getting it in. I found it easier to glue the seal onto the grille with a little superglue then use liquid soap on the sides and top to get it to slide in. Otherwise it all jams up and everything falls out of place. The new seals need compressing to get the bolts in from each side so in the end I had to use a softwood lever under the box to force it upwards enough to get the two bolts in each side (risking breaking the plastic box). Not an easy job working alone. Maybe Mark from 914rubber can chip in with some advice? It's almost as if the new top seals need to be a softer rubber compound or slightly more like a foam rubber to still expand and seal, but make it much easier to compress???? New grill also was to big for my box, so I cut some off all four sides. I too had problems compressing the new seal. One bolts goes in easy. The second needed a board under the box to compress the gasket enough to get the second bolt on. |
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| NS914 |
Apr 7 2016, 10:10 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 9-June 09 From: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia Member No.: 10,455 Region Association: Canada
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Thanks for bringing this post back...I have saved it as I will into this in two weeks if I get all of my wiring complete. Grant
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| rgolia |
Apr 7 2016, 11:24 AM
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GeoJoe Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 5-February 10 From: PA Member No.: 11,329 Region Association: North East States
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What needs to be added to this procedure is that you should have two air boxes on hand....one to install and the other to take your aggression out on. Since I started with only one, I had to get anther after the uncontrollable urge to destroy the thing came over me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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| 3d914 |
Apr 7 2016, 12:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,275 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Benson, AZ Member No.: 1,191 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(rgolia @ Apr 7 2016, 10:24 AM) What needs to be added to this procedure is that you should have two air boxes on hand....one to install and the other to take your aggression out on. Since I started with only one, I had to get anther after the uncontrollable urge to destroy the thing came over me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) |
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| porschetub |
Apr 7 2016, 01:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,729 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Darren C @ Apr 7 2016, 01:26 AM) QUOTE(falcor75 @ Apr 11 2015, 07:53 PM) QUOTE(914_teener @ Apr 11 2015, 09:16 PM) Tricks: Lots of patience. I ran out of patience....couldnt get the box to slide in without the new top seal sliding out of its position due to it being a hair or two too large. Had to slide in the passenger end first and then force the drivers side in then jam the whole assembly upwards with a crowbar while a friend entered the screws from the side..... f#ciking pita..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Yep, had the same issue. Bought a new seal and grille for the top from 914rubber, and had a real fight getting it in. I found it easier to glue the seal onto the grille with a little superglue then use liquid soap on the sides and top to get it to slide in. Otherwise it all jams up and everything falls out of place. The new seals need compressing to get the bolts in from each side so in the end I had to use a softwood lever under the box to force it upwards enough to get the two bolts in each side (risking breaking the plastic box). Not an easy job working alone. Maybe Mark from 914rubber can chip in with some advice? It's almost as if the new top seals need to be a softer rubber compound or slightly more like a foam rubber to still expand and seal, but make it much easier to compress???? Did mine the same way,my cowl seal was original and in great condition I hate to think what it would be like compressing a new one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| porschetub |
Apr 7 2016, 01:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,729 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(arkitect @ Apr 7 2016, 01:12 AM) I need to find two cables to complete my project. I had one with the end broke off, tried to rebend the s curve end on the control side back in...the wire is so brittle, it just breaks off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Dave Dave the other good thing about the Golf hood release cable is the wire is softer and bends easily to fit the levers,its also more flexible and this helps when refitting. |
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