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post Dec 15 2010, 03:06 AM
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People have pretty strong opinions on Zenith vs Weber. I preffered Zenith for street cars where you didn't 'fiddle' with jets and adjustements all the time like you would on a dedicated track car. Zeniths are better carbs than Webers, smoother transition from idle to part to full throttle. There was just more R&D spent because they were installed on factory sold cars.

Zeniths are harder to find parts for, but you can get everything you need to feed a 3.0. I sourced all the parts I needed to feed a destroked 2.7 (2.5) and they worked very, very well.
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Dec 15 2010, 10:20 AM) *

I preffered Zenith for street cars where you didn't 'fiddle' with jets and adjustements all the time like you would on a dedicated track car. Zeniths are better carbs than Webers, smoother transition from idle to part to full throttle.



That basically goes along with what I'm hearing, that Zeniths have a smoother feel an for the street, they're great.

As for finding parts for them, both these sets are pretty complete. We are cleaning both of them right now, and the only thing I need so far is a float for each of them, as one was crushed (Weber) and the other was just old (Zenith).


I have a Youtube video I'll be putting up from the other night when I first took off the CIS and we were messing with the Zeniths before cleaning/rebuild, and they sounded pretty good, and that was without even touching them!
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Zeniths have more adjustements you can make. It takes more time, but once you get them dailed in, they are a pretty sweet carb setup for 911 engines.

One of the tips I picked up from a local VW shop was source Solex parts. I stopped asking for "Zenith" parts and was able to find in stock at a local VW performance shop little things like jets and seals etc.
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Ding! Carbs are done!

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Shot of the inside before......


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Shot of the inside before......


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I never touched the jetting on my Webers for 8-9 years.......and seldom did the mixture screws after the "final" set up....that took a couple months. They are/were smooth top to bottom...no surge, flat spots,yada. Internet dabblers & carbs are a joke for anyone that takes the time to learn what makes them work.

The only problem I had was occasionally over G loading them and pulling gas away from the mains. Dabblers know even less about that.
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QUOTE(J P Stein @ Dec 28 2010, 11:51 AM) *

I never touched the jetting on my Webers for 8-9 years.......and seldom did the mixture screws after the "final" set up....that took a couple months. They are/were smooth top to bottom...no surge, flat spots,yada. Internet dabblers & carbs are a joke for anyone that takes the time to learn what makes them work.

The only problem I had was occasionally over G loading them and pulling gas away from the mains. Dabblers know even less about that.




Um..... Are you calling me an 'internet dabbler'? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
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All of that coming from the "Drivelmeister" ..... hmmmmmmmm
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Um..... Are you calling me an 'internet dabbler'? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)



You didn't say something absurd like "Webers are fiddly", so no, you're not included ...unless you wanna be. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

You like the Zeniths, fine. You'll learn that they are "fiddly" till you learn what it takes to make them work.
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JP is sounding more and more like a "crusty" old man!

take a Geritol and get over it JP! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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You didn't say something absurd like "Webers are fiddly", so no, you're not included ...unless you wanna be. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

You like the Zeniths, fine. You'll learn that they are "fiddly" till you learn what it takes to make them work.





Thank you J P, you're proving Root Werks to be absolutely correct (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) ......




QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Dec 15 2010, 10:20 AM) *

People have pretty strong opinions on Zenith vs Weber......
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Working on this now....

Went to the other shop to grab a pair of HE's.... and came back with 2/5 pairs. Guys are gone for the day, so I have the whole shop to myself..... Heeeeeello 80's mixtape!






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Set 3... Looks like headers that someone started to make into HE's? I dunno...


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Do you need those in sunny San Diego? They would bring a pretty penny in colder parts of the country/overseas.
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Do you need those in sunny San Diego? They would bring a pretty penny in colder parts of the country/overseas.


I'm going ahead and sandblasting all of them. I might part with one, but I dunno. They're coming out REALLY good, just giving the compressor a bit of a break.
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Do you need those in sunny San Diego? They would bring a pretty penny in colder parts of the country/overseas.


I'm going ahead and sandblasting all of them. I might part with one, but I dunno. They're coming out REALLY good, just giving the compressor a bit of a break.


Got one set done, took about 2 hours to do two.... Small puncture in one, but I'm gonna turn out the other set tomorrow, and see how it is. Amazing how 40 years of crap can come off in 2 hours




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I should note, I'm not COMPLETELY done cleaning them, but mostly. What are some ideas for coating? Just high temp paint?



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I should note, I'm not COMPLETELY done cleaning them, but mostly. What are some ideas for coating? Just high temp paint?
Ceramic paint/Jet Hot coating. Inside and out. Spend the money, make them look nice and last another 40 years.
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Took it a bit easy today and organized and put on these door panels. I think they look pretty sharp. Still have to put on the handle/pocket on the drivers side....



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