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post Jan 7 2009, 11:03 PM
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Serious question.

How long does the motor need to live?
Can you run on race fuel?

If you are talking about 4 drag races and 4 runs in an autox...then the car show I would say build a carbed 2.4 liter (71*103mm) and put it at 10.5:1 or 11:1 compression.
With heads at 46*38mm valves and the rest can be stock (dont yell Jake)

that will get you around 150-180 hp if done right..200hp if you have the right heads and camshaft.

It will be a tweeked motor that will run for the weekend.

I had a similar motor, 71*103 with 13:1 that dynoed at 209 hp...
Its a screamer and it lasted a season.

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I have been concidering a short stroke large displacement engine ala Ferrari style.

Is there more info on this 200 hp motor?

Could a 150 - 180 hp motor last longer for street use only?

Any thoughts?
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post Jan 12 2009, 08:44 AM
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Got some work done this weekend. It is getting lighter (and better looking) now.

I ended up with this

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and this

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Now to sell some parts to make up my budget (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jan 12 2009, 09:19 AM
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How much for the Harley? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
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post Jan 12 2009, 09:23 AM
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Sorry not for sale it is going to be restored. Was my roommate's mom's first vehicle.
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post Jan 12 2009, 09:30 AM
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How about the center console? and what sorts of parts are you in need of?

Where's a link to the rules? are you allowed to trade for parts? how would that effect your budget ratings, doing direct trades?
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post Jan 12 2009, 09:48 AM
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Here are the rules

Rules

As far as I know trades are ok because it is fair market value for fair market value.

I have created a classified post here

Parts for Sale
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post Jan 12 2009, 10:14 AM
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Picked this up yesterday. Seems to run good. Started fine and drove it into the trailer. I'll have $00.00 in it after the sale of the wheels and glass. May even make some money when I sell the body for scrap.
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post Jan 12 2009, 10:42 AM
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Nice an SVX. I'm hoping to be able to do the same with the donor car I'm getting as well.
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post Jan 12 2009, 08:54 PM
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Why not think about buying a VW Passat for it's 1.8t engine and transmission. (ya, the engine is mounted front to rear in the passat, not side to side.) They have lots of hop-up parts.

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post Jan 13 2009, 10:10 AM
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Somebody else mentioned this to me Wes, and even offered a Passat turbo trans for cheap, but I was not able to find an engine that would fit into my budget.
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post Feb 22 2009, 09:12 PM
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After some searching I've found a donor car for most of my drivetrain. I originally was looking for an early 90s legacy 2.2/FWD, and thought I had a lead on one, but when I went to look at the car it was automatic. Luckily this was at a Subaru Dealer/Junkyard, and the guy had a 1994 Impreza wagon 1.8/FWD.

Obviously this wasn't ideal because I need the 2.2 heads for my engine. He also wanted too much for the car after he was going to strip parts he wanted. So I worked out a deal in which I would strip the parts for him and bring them back if he threw in a set of 2.2 heads and dropped the price.

Walked away with this beauty for $200

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post Mar 26 2009, 09:57 AM
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Well the Impreza is stripped and gone. Made more than we paid for it so we are still good on the budget. Now the real work on the 914 can start.

Impreza on the way to the scrap yard.

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I know there are still more good parts on it, but we don't have time (or space) to keep it around and pick parts off of it.

Mid-engined?

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Have to protect yourself.

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It was kind of funny the guy at the scrap yard said, "You guys are scrapping a nicer car than the ones I used to run."
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post Mar 26 2009, 11:34 AM
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Nice score on the 94' Impreza! Our project car is gonna be using the EJ22e. Keep us updated on how you're gonna do the engine harness wiring.
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post Jun 3 2009, 09:04 AM
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Things have been a bit slow. I had to finish up working on my DD so this got put on hold.

This is how the car sits now.

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All the suspension and steering is off

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I have sourced a 2.5 engine from a 2001 Forester

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Here is all the wiring/intake from the 94 Impreza donor car, and the transmission is in the front trunk.

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I went to the Hershey Porsche Swap Meet and got a gas pedal for $10, but the best part was when I bought it the guy gave me a cracked fiberglass front bumper for FREE!!! Also picked up a spare wheel for $30 in case I can't straighten the lip on one of the ones that came with the car (this won't count toward the challenge budget unless I use it).

Hopefully rust repair will start this weekend. We are going to get creative with our reuse of some metal we cut out of the car in other areas to use as patch panels. Saves money (and the environment. We are being green (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif))

On another note, they sure do put enough under coat on these things don't they?
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post Jun 3 2009, 09:14 AM
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So just how old is that first pic (on the trailer)?

I can't remember when I last saw buck fifty seven gas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 3 2009, 09:20 AM
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Just after this past Chrstmas.
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post Jun 7 2009, 05:13 PM
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Nascar bars show up on ebay all the time, you can get a beefy front for under $100 full roller bearings and mono ball joints etc. You just need fab skills. I have 150 in both my front and rear bar. The post on how I built them is in hte paddock, and well, they work just great. Farmer parts are your friend. Springs go with 2.5" or 2.25" units and modif you spring pearches. You can get them new for $30 - 50 a pop.

You will want a set of cheap BOGE shocks, hydralic units ,and swap them in before hte drag race portion. Saggy stocks springs are your friends also. Don't forget a second set of wheels and tires for hte drags. Narrow fronts 135, hard as a rock, and wide fat stickes out back with a soft side wall.
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post Jun 7 2009, 08:22 PM
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on the cheap

use the tranny,, take out the diff and weld the gears together, sell the diff!!

use the nose cone to fab the back plate

5-$20 mr2 shifter

fab the cable shifter,,,find used boxster cablles cheap $20

do the wire harness your self

use the subaru fuel pump assembly and mount into 914 gas tank..

sleeve and weld the axles......

we've looked at most of this and its do able.. We are doing some of it!!!


I COULD TYPE AND SPELL BETTER IF I HAD MY GLASSES!!!!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)

good luck
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post Jun 8 2009, 04:14 AM
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Great progress...really wish we picked up a Subaru Legacy donor car for our project. These two donor cars on craigslist are tempting: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/1203189239.html http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/1208664382.html :/
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post Jun 8 2009, 06:09 AM
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I'm doing my conversion on the cheap also. I've got my engine from the SVX I posted earlier mounted and getting real close to starting it up. I figure after I sell the donar car at the pick and pull. I'll have $850 total into the converson. I really think buying the complete running car is the way to go on a conversion. I have used more things from the donor than I ever thought.
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