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Starting a 1971 IMSA 914 Restoration, A privateer run 914 with Sebring and Daytona history |
FourBlades |
Apr 22 2011, 10:50 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Been working for several weeks to rebuild the front end of the car.
The front fascia only comes up about half way and both head light buckets are rusted badly. I have replacements that Thomas sent to me I will use to fix this. Somehow I can't get the new section to fit the car. It is like it is too wide to fit between the fenders. Took some measurements on my other 914s for comparison. No wonder, this car is 2.5 cm narrower than it should be, it is 125.75 cm across at the very front. Love the Area 51 welding jacket. John |
FourBlades |
Apr 22 2011, 10:57 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Get out the porta power and start pushing it back into shape.
Push it, check it, push it, check it. Get frustrated by the spring back and really crank it. Needed to cut through the fascia to the proper fit and bending. Push it and now it stays where it should. Checked the diagonals and widths. Hammer it here and there to shape it right. Try fitting the pieces again. Now everything fits well. Nothing like a 4 ton hydraulic ram to ensure cooperation. John |
FourBlades |
Apr 22 2011, 11:05 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Tack weld the pieces on and check the fit with the hood. The hood fits well except
where they must have reshaped it to make up for the pushed in driver side. The driver side fender was replace at some point by brazing on a piece from a green car. Check the fit of the headlights and covers. It all fits decent. The gaps are a little big but it is good enough for a race that has been wrecked multiple times. Fully welded it a few inches at a time by cutting through the overlapping pieces and filling in the kerf. Clean it up and prime it. I ran out of one color of rattle can self etch and started in with another color part way through. Starting to look pretty good. This was a pretty major effort to reconstruct but I am happy with how it turned out. John |
FourBlades |
Apr 22 2011, 11:11 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
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carr914 |
Apr 22 2011, 11:16 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,978 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
John, did you see that someone is selling an IMSA front bumper in the Classifieds?
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FourBlades |
Apr 22 2011, 11:30 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
TC, Yes I did notice that. I am going to check if the one that came with the car is usable. I am now at the point where I can determine if it will work. I'd rather use the original piece if I can. John |
gms |
Apr 22 2011, 12:45 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,708 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
TC, Yes I did notice that. I am going to check if the one that came with the car is usable. I am now at the point where I can determine if it will work. I'd rather use the original piece if I can. John This is totally fixable! reuse it! Attached thumbnail(s) |
PeeGreen 914 |
Apr 22 2011, 03:24 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Have you ever heard of Vice Grips? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I hope you own stock (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
Your work is ever impressive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Awesome seeing this come together (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
FourBlades |
Apr 22 2011, 03:37 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
You can never have enough clamps, I actually bought a few more really wide ones
for this project. Things made out of fiberglass can usually be repaired if you don't mind the itching. The fenders and bumper had all been repaired multiple times by globbing on more kitty hair and bondo. I will grind them down to the correct thickness again and repair them the right way, with 12:1 feathering of holes and cracks and then adding new cloth. I used to shape and glass surfboards about 20 years ago, where does the time go? John |
Cairo94507 |
Apr 23 2011, 07:44 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,173 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Just WOW! I love the work you are doing to save this piece of Porsche history. Very nice indeed.
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trojanhorsepower |
Apr 23 2011, 08:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 867 Joined: 21-September 03 From: Marion, NC Member No.: 1,179 Region Association: None |
John,
Great work as always! I was just wondering... what was the point of welding in two large pieces instead of one large one? I am guessing it was to preserve as much of the original car as possible, but would like to hear your thoughts on that. Thanks and keep up the good work. -Peter |
gms |
Apr 23 2011, 09:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,708 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
John,
this shelf/support is not on the 1971 cars, get it out of there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Attached image(s) |
gms |
Apr 23 2011, 09:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,708 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Things made out of fiberglass can usually be repaired if you don't mind the itching. The fenders and bumper had all been repaired multiple times by globbing on more kitty hair and bondo. I will grind them down to the correct thickness again and repair them the right way, with 12:1 feathering of holes and cracks and then adding new cloth. I used to shape and glass surfboards about 20 years ago, where does the time go? Glad to hear this, that bumper is fairly unique. |
FourBlades |
Apr 23 2011, 11:58 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks for all the comments! Peter: I had two pieces from two different cars. I think this made it easier to get them in. Trying to get one piece with the headlight buckets attached and all the lower trunk stuff probably would not have worked. The car narrows the closer it gets to the front, so you can't slide a piece in from the front without some major cutting of one side. I actually cut the fascia in half vertically to make fitting it easier, so it was three major pieces put in. Glenn: I left the reinforcement on until I fully weld all the new stuff to try to maintain the original shape. I plan to remove it once I start fitting the front oil cooler. John |
SirAndy |
Apr 23 2011, 12:09 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,973 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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FourBlades |
Jun 23 2011, 08:18 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Been having some computer issues and finally upgraded to windows 7 which has
allowed me to eradicate all viruses. Been working on finishing up the engine bay. Welded on Tangerine Racing rear suspension ear reinforcement plates and made some removable chassis braces. The longs were cracked on the outside around the suspension points so this should help stabilize them. Those are 1/8 plates welded on the firewall. I put the attachment point down low where the floor pan helps reinforce the firewall. I added some 16 gauge plating to the top and bottom of the suspension mounting point where the brace attaches. I am missing a jam nut on this brace. I've got some smaller heim joints and tubes to build reinforcements for the carrier on the other end of the suspension mounting point. That should help stabilize the other end of the rear arm and keep the toe in from changing. John |
FourBlades |
Jun 23 2011, 08:30 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Cut out the rusty hell hole.
Some cool rat parties went down inside this race car. Cleaned out the rat pad using latex gloves which were promptly tossed. Took some recon photos of the inside. Does not look too bad actually. This will get treated and painted before sealing it back up. John |
ellisor3 |
Jun 23 2011, 08:31 PM
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HPWhore Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fleming Island, Florida Member No.: 9,683 Region Association: South East States |
John,
That looks fantastic, you have balls the size of church bells to take on that project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Can't wait to see it finished. Are you painting it back to its racing colors? |
FourBlades |
Jun 23 2011, 08:39 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Been working on the tunnel and cross brace. Basically all the metal within an inch
of the floor is completely rusted away. Cut this all back to solid metal and patched in new pieces. I thought about trying to get a perfect tunnel from a donor and buy new, repro cross braces and inner firewall pieces. I could have made the interior look close to brand new stock but the guys who built this car originally would never have done that. I plan to just have a bare metal, painted interior where all the welded panels will show. I could try to grind all the welds smooth, but again, that was never what the original builders did. They did race the car with factory sound deadening tar in place. That all went with the old floor pan and it got stripped off the tunnel. I wonder why they did not bother with that obvious and easy weight reduction? Should I replace the factory tar to be closer to how it was in the day? I have no idea but I am leaning towards no. Welded on a new fender to replace the trashed one. Terry (914xprs) supplied this cherry piece for me. John |
FourBlades |
Jun 23 2011, 08:44 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
John, That looks fantastic, you have balls the size of church bells to take on that project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Can't wait to see it finished. Are you painting it back to its racing colors? Yes, I plan to paint it the way it was when it raced at Sebring, which is close to how it looked when I got it, minus some jewelry store sponsorship. I have been loving your build thread. What a great color and a great motor. Joe is doing some really nice work on it. That will be one of the best 914s around pretty soon now. John |
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