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> Starting a 1971 IMSA 914 Restoration, A privateer run 914 with Sebring and Daytona history
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post Apr 6 2012, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Apr 3 2012, 07:56 PM) *

John,

Don't know if you knew about this video but your car is shown at about the 12:21 mark and 14:46.

Sebring 12 Hours 1977...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kks-yGG_6g


That is awesome, never seen that movie before!

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post Apr 6 2012, 10:26 AM
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That video was awesome! So cool to see your car in there John!
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post Apr 8 2012, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Apr 3 2012, 06:56 PM) *

John,

Don't know if you knew about this video but your car is shown at about the 12:21 mark and 14:46.

Sebring 12 Hours 1977...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kks-yGG_6g


Paul, Thanks for linking that video. Great stuff!

And we bitch about today's coverage of sports car racing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 8 2012, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(maf914 @ Apr 8 2012, 09:59 AM) *

QUOTE(URY914 @ Apr 3 2012, 06:56 PM) *

John,

Don't know if you knew about this video but your car is shown at about the 12:21 mark and 14:46.

Sebring 12 Hours 1977...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kks-yGG_6g


Paul, Thanks for linking that video. Great stuff!

And we bitch about today's coverage of sports car racing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


It pays to do a Youtube search every few months. Kinda like fishing. Sometimes nothing; sometimes you get one.
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post Apr 22 2012, 08:01 PM
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I decided to build a sheet metal oil cooler shroud so I could make the top in two
pieces. This will allow the oil cooler to be cleaned out or replaced with the bracing
tubes welded in place. Spent a long time making an ugly looking template for a side.

I copied the shape of the fiberglass oil cooler shroud.

I had to add tape to several edges where I cut too much off to start with.

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First side bent up and fitted.

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Bending up the second side. These pliers are really useful for this kind of work and you
can buy them at Home Depot, etc.

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Hammering on the bend to make it crisper.

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Both sides screwed down.

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Laying out the first top piece.

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Cut it out with the power sheers. They tend to get hung up sometimes and screw
up your cuts. I had to straighten out some of these edges with the grinder.

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Screwed it together.

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It turned out pretty well. I will replace the sheet metal screws with welded nuts
later on.

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This took several days but I am glad I took the time to do it.

John
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post Apr 22 2012, 08:10 PM
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Continued work on mounting the fuel cell. Following the approach used by several
fuel cell makers to strap down a cell. Bent up some 1 1/4 by 1/8 steel strips.

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The straps go all the way around the fuel cell and the frame on which it sits. Bolted
through the lip of the cell at the top. The frame the fuel cell is sitting in is a welded
rectangle of one inch angle iron. The straps will be welded to the frame on the
bottom.

A additional angle will be used to bolt the back lip to the bulkhead.

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post Jul 1 2012, 12:55 PM
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Tired of the endless work on the front end, I decided to fix some holes in the engine bay including the hell hole.

Notice the long is cracked in the rear wheel arch. This is the kind of crack the GT stiffening kit is meant to prevent.
Interesting that it cracked even with (or maybe because of) the bars tying into the rear shock towers.

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Cut out rusted metal where the battery tray attaches on the other side.

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Make a template by sticking painters tape over the hole from the other side.


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post Jul 1 2012, 01:09 PM
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Stick the tape to a piece of metal and cut it out. Easy to get a good fit this way.

Tack it being careful to align the edges perfectly flat. If the patch sticks in or out by
any appreciable amount it is impossible to grind the seam flat.

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Keep adding tacks until it is fully welded. Notice the burns and dirt around each tack
weld. Once this side is fully welded, I turn up my welder and hit any parts of the other
side that did not burn through fully. Doing this before grinding the first side gives more
metal to absorb the weld heat.

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Every time I do this I learn something more. This time I stopped now and then and wire
wheeled the seam to clean the spatter from previous sets of tacks. This seems to keep
the popping and blow through down.

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Made a 16 gauge patch for the hell hole. This is trickier to make than it looks because
of the bends and the way the long curves. Welded some backers to the top and
bottom to help align the patch and allow a hotter weld seam there. Makes it much
easier to fix an area where you can't access the back.

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Welded and ground down.

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The bodywork on this car is just never ending...there is still more.

John

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post Jul 1 2012, 01:54 PM
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Very nice work John. I love checking in on your project and seeing what you fab up next. Keep up the great work!
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post Jul 1 2012, 02:12 PM
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Thanks Brian, I am ready for the mechanical assembly but there is a lot of bodywork still to do...

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post Jul 1 2012, 08:38 PM
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John,
You're metal work continues to impress me and gets better and better. The shroud looks killer. My main area of focus is body work, so let me know if you would like some free labor!

BTW - I got the Tangerine kit installed today. Its a different car now. Thank you, thank you again. I'll post pics soon.
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post Jul 14 2012, 03:34 PM
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Hey George, glad the parts helped out. I am going to want some help when the
epic reassembly of this car finally arrives. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

My trusty dewalt grinder quit on me the other day after 5 years and 2 cars of
fearless grinding. I was wondering what the deal was until I noticed the cord
was on fire near the body of the grinder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Put out the fire and installed a new cord and its back on the job.

Fixing the tail. The sheet metal underneath the old fiberglass fenders is in really
bad shape. All chewed up and distorted. It looks like the builders bashed in the
fenders as needed and filled them with glass. I fixed a bunch of pin holes and
cracks in addition to this work.

I don't really want to buy replacement steel rear fenders, which have to be getting
rare, just to cut most of them off. When I get the new fiberglass ones I'll decide
what I am going to do. Making these decisions is not easy and involves a lot of
angst.

Already built up the bottom of the corner with a few bits.

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Fixed some more cracks and holes after this.

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Fixing the taillight area.

Sketch out the new piece.

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Cut n bend.

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Weld n grind.

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Fits decent. The front corner of the fender is pretty tweaked so it is not perfect.

Losing patience with how bad the metal is on the fenders so calling it a day.

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Switching gears here to work on something besides welding and grinding.

I have asked some of the experienced folks what kind of seats to run in the car.

They have given me some great ideas and I hate to keep bothering the same
people all the time so I thought I would throw this out for the world to help me out.

I would like to race the car in vintage racing, do some DEs, and maybe some
vintage rallys. The Targa Newfoundland is my fantasy goal.

I can either use a vintage looking seat, like this great aluminum Kirkey 41500
vintage seat.

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A less vintage looking seat but one that is probably safer would be this Kirkey
47500 seat.

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Don't be shy now what do you all think?

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post Jul 14 2012, 04:01 PM
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Go for safety over looks in that dept. I vote!
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I'm really getting into SVRA and historics and from what I know, no one looks down upon modern safety equipment. Fuel cells, HANS devices and seats are just some of the many areas that people upgrade with good reason. I vote the tall seat-back. I sincerely doubt if you were to track it at all that you would be able to get by with the low-back. Not to mention, its just a bad idea in general I think. The fender work looks awesome! Are you going to try your hand at a shrinking disc to smooth out the rest of it, since you're planning on FG fenders at some point?
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I have heard great things about shrinking disks and have John's video where he
demonstrates it.

I also heard from people whose disk exploded and sent them to the hospital with
major injuries.

I have not had much luck shrinking with acetylene but I may try again.

Keep the ideas coming. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

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post Jul 14 2012, 05:25 PM
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John, I have a Sparco Racing Seat with Recaro Brackets that came out of the Carrera if you want a Real Racing Seat ( Cheap)

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You'll need the tall seat for racing the 914 ... even just vinatage.
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People must use the short vintage seat in street cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

After combing this site and the internet in general for days I have concluded that
I need Roger Sheridan's wide rear body flares.

They look the closest to the original flares that I can find and they are wide enough
to fit the Gottis I want to use. The rear tires on the Gottis are around 13.5" wide.
That is too wide for the Sheridan standard rear flares. Now I have to figure out
what size wheel spacer to make the Gottis work.

I found some other really wide rear flares but they have a hard body line in them
that does not match the originals or they have big vent holes. I also do not want
to use 914 GT style rear flares because that is not what was on the car.

Anyone know of any other potential choice?

Thanks,

John
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