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Starting a 1971 IMSA 914 Restoration, A privateer run 914 with Sebring and Daytona history |
FourBlades |
Jan 21 2009, 08:54 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
I am finally starting on the build thread for the IMSA 914. This is a 1971 914-4
that was bought in 1975 or 6 as a used car and turned into an IMSA GTU car. It is a well crafted but not big budget car with a lot of clever touches that helped it to beat a lot of more famous and undoubtedly better financed teams. My wife and I plan to restore the car to racing condition and then enjoy the heck out of it without abusing it any further (its clearly had a hard life). Our priorities are (1) make it safe and legal for current vintage rules (2) keep it original as practical (3) keep it period correct, in that order. We also want to avoid over restoring it too much, but it is easy to understand the temptation to cad plate, power coat, and perfectly repaint everything. I think this last issue will be the biggest, other than going broke or insane first (either one would be a short trip at this point). I plan to post way too many photos, the best quality I can, until people flame me big time to stop. I also expect you, yes YOU!, to help me figure out what to do and give me ideas and comments. I may not always do everything people want, but I will consider all ideas. I'm really just a novice restorer and I know I can't do this without your help. OK, so screw the BS, lets see some pictures. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Competing at Sebring as a 4-cylinder (changed to a six soon after). T.C., who found the car in a barn, passes it on to me (what luck!). I had to turn to a close friend for the financing, but it worked out. Huge ATL 500A fuel cell. The hood just closes over this. TC, URY914, SMG914, and I working on my Explorer flat six conversion. Fiberglass flares and paintwork need a little bit of work. Wife: Are you sure we are buying the right car? Why don't we just buy this one from T.C., it actually has an engine inside the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I have started to dissassemble the car so it can be soda blasted and I have tons of pictures to post. So what do you all think? John |
slow914 |
Jan 21 2009, 09:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 5-February 08 From: Kirkland, WA Member No.: 8,671 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Post all the pictures you would like and, If you'd like to share ALLL of them without being to crazy just put them all in a indexed online album anyone can look at like on photobucket Oh and GODSPEED good sir |
championgt1 |
Jan 21 2009, 09:04 PM
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Don't embarrass me Filmore! Group: Members Posts: 2,680 Joined: 3-January 07 From: Tacoma, Washington Member No.: 7,420 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Cool project. Post lots of pics! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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Todd Enlund |
Jan 22 2009, 01:27 AM
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Resident Photoshop Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,251 Joined: 24-August 07 From: Laurelhurst (Portland), Oregon Member No.: 8,032 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
This is gonna be awesome... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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PeeGreen 914 |
Jan 22 2009, 01:35 AM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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PanelBilly |
Jan 22 2009, 01:55 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,866 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
THe whole over restoration thing is a difficult one. Your already soda blasting and that's the beginning of the cycle. I'm assuming you've already determined that the car needs significant work, so why not aim high and bring it back to the condition is was when it started its racing life. If you want to drive, I think that you should buy a driver. If you get a car to restore, it should be done with the most perfection you can manage.
Just my 2cents. Then again, I can walk right past a race car, but a restored car will stop me in my tracks. |
carr914 |
Jan 22 2009, 06:35 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,978 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Encouragement is right here across the State. Advise is Free.
T.C. |
FourBlades |
Jan 22 2009, 07:22 AM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks everyone for the encouragement. Billy: I think what I am trying to avoid is making it more perfect than it ever was during its racing career. The two guys who ran the car built it to be a practical racer and never a show car wth perfect paint, etc. I am sure when I get done it will be better than it ever was when it was a race car, its just a question of how much better. A lot of the fabrication has a quick and dirty look to it. It has a lot of surface rust that needs to go so there is no question of saving the original paint. John |
carr914 |
Jan 22 2009, 07:27 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,978 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
John, I told you I would dig up a picture of a Mazda RX-7 Cooler I had in 914 racecar. Also there is one on eBay from AutoAtlanta right now sitting at $25 with the reserve not met.
T.C. |
sixnotfour |
Jan 22 2009, 08:06 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,704 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Thanks everyone for the encouragement. Billy: I think what I am trying to avoid is making it more perfect than it ever was during its racing career. The two guys who ran the car built it to be a practical racer and never a show car wth perfect paint, etc. I am sure when I get done it will be better than it ever was when it was a race car, its just a question of how much better. A lot of the fabrication has a quick and dirty look to it. It has a lot of surface rust that needs to go so there is no question of saving the original paint. John I think the term is sympathetic restoration. Keep up the photo's |
Eric_Shea |
Jan 22 2009, 03:41 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Did you take detailed photos of the graphics? Do you care?
That's the only thing I'd add... Godspeed. |
JmuRiz |
Jan 22 2009, 03:47 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,522 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Cool, and take/post all the pictures you want, the more the better.
Best of luck on the project! |
sixnotfour |
Jan 22 2009, 06:35 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,704 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I did a car with hand painted graphics and used trace paper , then the sign painter redid em exact.
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turboman808 |
Jan 22 2009, 06:48 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 31-January 06 From: North Jersey Member No.: 5,505 Region Association: North East States |
That's an awesome project (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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Aaron Cox |
Jan 22 2009, 08:02 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
That will be a sick project!
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ericread |
Jan 22 2009, 08:15 PM
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The Viper Blue 914 Group: Members Posts: 2,177 Joined: 7-December 07 From: Irvine, CA (The OC) Member No.: 8,432 Region Association: Southern California |
So... Where the hell are the pictures (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Just kidding. We can't wait to see your progress (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
FourBlades |
Jan 22 2009, 08:20 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
I did a car with hand painted graphics and used trace paper , then the sign painter redid em exact. I was planning to get good photos of all the graphics, but full size tracing sounds like a good idea as well. T.C. located the jewelry store in Miami that was once the sponsor, but they seem to be out of business now. Maybe if we can dig up the address, some World member in Miami can swing by and see what they can find out??? John |
carr914 |
Jan 22 2009, 08:31 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,978 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
The Sponsor was Le Trianon Jewelry Corp - 3807 NW 7th Street, Miami, FL - Owner, Alfred Curi. It was near the Airport & Flagler Dog Track
T.C. John, Did you get ahold of Manual Cueto Jr.? |
FourBlades |
Jan 22 2009, 08:43 PM
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From Wreck to Rockin Group: Members Posts: 2,056 Joined: 3-December 07 From: Brevard, FL Member No.: 8,414 Region Association: South East States |
No, T.C., I have not done that yet. I have worked every day since I picked up
the car from you. The big crunch should end in 10 more days or so. Then I plan to take off a few weeks and make some progress. Here are some more pictures. I got a lot of great advice on taking pictures from people, not all of which I have been able to implement yet, but most of these are ok. First thing I did was to take apart the fuel system. Here is an oil filter that was loose inside the car. Is this company still around? It looks like a stainless screen filter, do people use these on the 914-6s still? Notice the dual fuel pumps, filters, and relays. These connect to a fuel pressure regulator and then to the normal fuel line in the tunnel. Don't know if the plastic lines are in there still. This is the custom made oil tank. You can see the fuel pressure regulator, which is bolted to its side. It has a range of 1-6 pounds so the car had to be running carbs. Geez, I sound like I actually know something about 914s, ha! I know just enough now to realize how much I have to learn. John |
carr914 |
Jan 22 2009, 08:57 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,978 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
John, That Par filter was actually in-line for the tranny cooler at the rear of the car. The lines were all brittle and when I was stripping the trunk I took that filter off.
The best I could tell the car was running a Twin-Plug motor due to the twin ignition boxes & Coils that are attached to the firewall where the passenger seat would be. I'm sure they were running carbs. T.C. |
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