control arms? trailing arm? ya know that thing, 4 to 6 |
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control arms? trailing arm? ya know that thing, 4 to 6 |
6freak |
Jun 1 2009, 09:13 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Will the lower control arm? trailing arm? off that scrape car im parting work (after rebuild of course) on my factory-6 ? so i can send them off have them rebuild and just pull the old one out and slap the rebuilds in ......Scrape car is a early1974 - 4 and mine is a 1970-6....Thanks for any help
Mike |
Lavanaut |
Jun 1 2009, 09:18 AM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Will the lower control arm? trailing arm? off that scrape car im parting work (after rebuild of course) on my factory-6 ? so i can send them off have them rebuild and just pull the old one out and slap the rebuilds in ......Scrape car is a early1974 - 4 and mine is a 1970-6....Thanks for any help Mike Wrong forum Mike, but I believe the answer is "yes". Reid |
6freak |
Jun 1 2009, 09:33 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Will the lower control arm? trailing arm? off that scrape car im parting work (after rebuild of course) on my factory-6 ? so i can send them off have them rebuild and just pull the old one out and slap the rebuilds in ......Scrape car is a early1974 - 4 and mine is a 1970-6....Thanks for any help Mike Wrong forum Mike, but I believe the answer is "yes". Reid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Sorry i didnt think about that part |
Gint |
Jun 1 2009, 12:04 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
If you're talking about the control arms (I can't really tell what you're talking about for sure), I thought there was at least one subtle difference in the 6 and 4 control arms. CRS won't allow me to recall exactly what it is though.
Anybody? Moved to the garage. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) |
jt914-6 |
Jun 1 2009, 12:36 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
To use the lower control arms on the '70 you'll have to use the '70 ball joint. They are different between the '70 & '74.
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Lavanaut |
Jun 1 2009, 12:49 PM
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Hungry Mind : Thirsty Gullet Group: Members Posts: 916 Joined: 20-June 06 From: Bend, OR Member No.: 6,265 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
so i can send them off have them rebuild and just pull the old one out and slap the rebuilds in Mike, out of curiosity, what is there to rebuild as far as a trailing arm goes? New bushings? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Randal |
Jun 1 2009, 01:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
If you are talking about the rear trailing arms suggest you look at Chris Foley's stuff at: http://www.tangerineracing.com/suspension....Trailing%20Arms He is an advertiser here, a poster here and does excellant work. He did the total trick on my trailing arms and they came back straight and totally reinforced. Really nice work. |
Richard Casto |
Jun 1 2009, 01:20 PM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
torsion bar spline count on the 914/4 is different than 911. So if you mix and match 914/4 with 911 you must use a torsion bar that is made for that arm (spline count). I can't remember if spline count for the 914/6 matches the 914/4 or the 911. PET diagram should show if the 914/6 part is the same as the 911 part.
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6freak |
Jun 1 2009, 01:21 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If you are talking about the rear trailing arms suggest you look at Chris Foley's stuff at: http://www.tangerineracing.com/suspension....Trailing%20Arms He is an advertiser here, a poster here and does excellant work. He did the total trick on my trailing arms and they came back straight and totally reinforced. Really nice work. yup thats what im talk`n bout .. but with out the stiffning and will the two interchange from 4 to 6 cars Maybe i`ll just give him a ring Im sure he will know..Thanks to everyone for the help Mike |
Richard Casto |
Jun 1 2009, 01:22 PM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
It is confusing as to what the OP is asking. Are we talking about front suspension (a-arm) or rear suspension (trailing arm)?
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6freak |
Jun 1 2009, 01:37 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Gint |
Jun 1 2009, 03:27 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It's also confusing because 914 rear trailing arms are also control arms. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Like I said before, I'm pretty sure there is a subtle difference between 4 and 6 trailing arms. I think it's the e-brake mount, but I'm not 100% certain. |
6freak |
Jun 1 2009, 03:34 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
It's also confusing because 914 rear trailing arms are also control arms. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Like I said before, I'm pretty sure there is a subtle difference between 4 and 6 trailing arms. I think it's the e-brake mount, but I'm not 100% certain. so i was right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) that dont happen to much..LOL |
Gint |
Jun 1 2009, 03:43 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Where's that shea-guy when you need him?
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6freak |
Jun 1 2009, 03:47 PM
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ChrisFoley |
Jun 1 2009, 09:25 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,969 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
The arms themselves are the same.
Differences were in bolt-on components: the brake calipers - sixes have bigger pistons; the hubs/rotors - sixes have 5 lugs, not 4 bolts. BTW, the stiffening on my refurbished trailing arms is lightweight and comes at no extra charge along with the straightening, powdercoating, new bearings, new bushings, and new pivot shafts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Larry.Hubby |
Jun 1 2009, 09:52 PM
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Member who doesn't post much, but has a long time in 914s Group: Members Posts: 186 Joined: 24-November 04 From: Palo Alto, CA Member No.: 3,172 Region Association: Northern California |
I believe the trailing arms are the same on the 914 for all years and models (there are, of course, different left side and right side parts). At least, PET shows the same part numbers for the left and right arms of all years and models.
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JRust |
Jun 1 2009, 10:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,311 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Mike I think you should get them done no matter what. I know if they didn't work for you? I could get them from you cheap later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
6freak |
Jun 2 2009, 09:06 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Mike I think you should get them done no matter what. I know if they didn't work for you? I could get them from you cheap later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) fur sure buddy ..I was just hope`n to get a set rebuilt so the car wont sit to long..kind of a pull the parts and put the new one`s in the same day..If she sits on the JS`s too long she gets an attitude |
6freak |
Jun 2 2009, 09:16 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The arms themselves are the same. Differences were in bolt-on components: the brake calipers - sixes have bigger pistons; the hubs/rotors - sixes have 5 lugs, not 4 bolts. BTW, the stiffening on my refurbished trailing arms is lightweight and comes at no extra charge along with the straightening, powdercoating, new bearings, new bushings, and new pivot shafts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hello Chris! so your saying that I can take the set off the four banger have them rebuilt and then just bolt it up to my 6 and everything else will bolt right on...I dont want the stiffening part just the powdercoat, bearings , bushings and shafts..and zerks ..I will give you a call soon thanks Mike Crandall |
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