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fasthonda
post Jul 26 2009, 10:52 AM
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I would share my project with the world since I enjoy seeing what others have posted. The 914world has been big help in sourcing info, parts, and the car itself.

I thought about building this car for years, and finally decided to act on it.

Recomendations and comments are welcome. Thanks, Michael

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Body: 1973 narrow bodied w/ fiberglass bumpers
Engine: Honda S2000 F20C (250 ps @ 8200 rpm)
Transmission: Stock
Front Suspension: 87 911 front end w/ Bilstein Sports, 22 sway bar
Rear Suspension 250 lb springs on bilstein sports, poly bushings
Wheels: 15x7 with R compound
Brakes: 87 911 Carrera F&R

This is how it looked when I first got it. Brought this home from Southern Caifornia. The transport company rolled it up in the yard since it had no brakes.
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Repaired hell hole
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Reinforced rear suspension console
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Removed sound deadening from the floor and prepping for POR15
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Rear fiberglass bumper fitted
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I hope to be installing the drivetrain in September, that is if Murphy's law quits getting me. The flywheel from KEP is several thousands too small to fit on the crankshaft so I need to get that resolved first.
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post Jul 26 2009, 11:28 AM
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great engine.....will it fit????
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post Jul 26 2009, 12:02 PM
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Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol
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Nice. Can't wait to see this through. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jul 26 2009, 12:05 PM
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Woah, awesome so far. Can't wait to see the progress!
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post Jul 27 2009, 10:51 PM
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Sounds like a real cool project, but what class will putting the Honda motor in the 914 put you in?

I'd hate to go to all that work only to end up stuck having to compete against V8 cars running 2-3 times the HP.
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post Jul 28 2009, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(Zundfolge @ Jul 27 2009, 08:51 PM) *

Sounds like a real cool project, but what class will putting the Honda motor in the 914 put you in?

I'd hate to go to all that work only to end up stuck having to compete against V8 cars running 2-3 times the HP.


I don't really plan to race this, just show off at HPDE events. However if it proves to be a very capable car, I may race it NASA's GTS class. I don't plan to install a cage until the car has been sorted and proven, due to budget contraints.

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post Jul 28 2009, 08:20 PM
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This is certainly not what I expected down here.
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Any reasonw hy you went F20 over a K series?


People are getting insane power all motor out of the K.

K24/K20 combo would be nasty.
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post Jul 29 2009, 12:13 AM
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I think the stock F20C should be enough to make a 914 haul ass pretty nicely compared to just about anything you could do with a type-IV.

Fasthonda, is that an F20 or F22? I hear the F22 in the AP2 is a lot more fun to drive than the F20 in the AP1.

My dream 914 streetcar would probably have a honda J30/5/7 engine. A 3.0 to 3.7 v6 with more power than the porsche six cylinders and half the weight!
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post Aug 12 2009, 12:42 AM
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Great concept ...good luck.
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post Sep 3 2009, 07:15 PM
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Project update. Things are progressing slow since I haven't much time. I'm ready now to fit the powertrain in the car and fabricate the engine mount. Here's a few pictures of the progress. I'm also still looking for a nice clean (no rust) stock gas tank if anyone has one for sale.
Painted the interior floor with POR15

Cleaned up and painted the engine bay

901 trans mounted to the S2K engine
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post Sep 3 2009, 09:06 PM
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Arrrrhhhh!
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loving it!
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post Sep 3 2009, 09:40 PM
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This is looking cool! What clutch/flywheel are you going to use?
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post Sep 4 2009, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Hamilton @ Sep 3 2009, 07:40 PM) *

This is looking cool! What clutch/flywheel are you going to use?


Chris,

The flywheel is from Kennedy Engineering. I will be using the stock 914 clutch and pressure plate. Since the S2K motor is low on torque and the car will be very light the stock setup should be fine.

I set the engine under the car today. The S2K motor is very tall. The valve cover will protrude above the engine lid and trunk so these will need to be modified. The Engine still needs to be raised about 8 inches from the position in the picture below. I need to cut the truck section before I can raise it to its final position.



I put the cookie cutters on the front today for the first time. I think these wheels look great on the car.
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post Sep 5 2009, 02:34 PM
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Does the S2k engine rotate the right way, or do you need to flip the diff?
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post Sep 5 2009, 05:08 PM
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The stock clutch will be fine till you start trying to drop the clutch...

Cool project!
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post Sep 5 2009, 08:45 PM
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From the AP2 S2000 I drove, I didn't feel that they have any more torque than my 2.0L rabbit rods TIV, they just have a bit more power at the top end. If this engine is from an AP1, I'd imagine it has even less twist.

So I think the clutch ( especially if you get one of those nice sachs high performance models ) should probably be in good shape to take the Honda engine.
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post Sep 11 2009, 07:47 PM
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I now have the powertrain in its final position and will begin fabricating the engine mounting bar. The shift linkage clears the oil pan so no modifications needed there, however the the throttle body is up against the fire wall so I will have to put a recess in the fire wall to make clearance for a 180 deg. bend.
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post Sep 12 2009, 10:44 PM
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Wow, that's looking good!

I suppose it would be worth going to individual throttle bodies in that configuration to clear the firewall.
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post Oct 3 2009, 10:55 PM
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How's the project going?
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post Oct 4 2009, 10:17 AM
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I would suggest that you paint over the POR while your at it...
The POR does not like UV light in any form, and will change color on you quickly -
It's easier to do it now while your cabin is still empty -

Your project looks great - keep at it!
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