 Muellers Honda V6 914 project, Put 70 miles on this engine swap, now to drop broken motor |
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| Mueller |
  Oct 1 2015, 08:42 PM
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914 Freak!  Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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Greeting Earthlings!
Got my 1st of many 914's back in '96 or so...'75 with a bad 1.8, installed new motor, drove it for a while and took apart...sold or cut it up, I don't remember...I've repeated that process about 4 times. Then finally in '07 I sold my last 914 along with my trailer and sold or gave away almost everything I had Porsche related except for a few small models and tee shirts. If you look at my member number, I have been around for a long time...I even have a "Smilie" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif) At the beginning of '15 I mentioned to a co-worker I'd like another 914 and we made a deal for his in which I was able to make payments and I paid it off last week. ($200 a month for a grand total of $2000) The car: 1973 which originally had a 1.7 in it. The PO installed a 2.0 bus motor with megaquirt on it and drove it for a few years and parked it about 4 years ago due to no more compression in cylinder #3. I knew the car had some engine compartment rust in the hell hole, but it is worse that I thought it had, but I still think I got an okay deal on the car considering I was able to make payments and I knew the history of the car before I even considered buying it. 5x130mm redrilled /4 hubs with extra long studs up front with slide on spacer and bolt on 5x130 to 5x130 bolt on spacer in the back, not keen on either end. Plans: Install 1.8 motor I picked up from McMark after I fix a few broken exhaust studs (not Marks fault) Redo all suspension bushings and possibly the shocks (I think it has KYB's) Undecided on the wheels, now it has 16x7 53mm offset Phonedials with 205/50/16s. Fix hell hole. Fix up the interior. Do "something" with the turn signals front and back, I don't like 'em (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) Body needs some straightening and paint for sure. I might toss the green Porsche decal(s) for nothing at all or a different color. Below are pictures as the car sits across the street. Why across the street and not at my house? Well, I made a deal with the wife that my on going 6 year project car will be driving before I bring the 914 home, that will happen once I install the entire front suspension, install a wiring harness and finish building the engine and install that also. So possibly before the end of the year the 914 will be home!           |
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| Mueller |
Oct 1 2015, 08:45 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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Picture of me and my twins, I told them we'll take another picture of them next year at the same time.
Oh yea, my 1.8 motor underneath the wheels and tires that belong on the Volvo 242 I should be working on!     Thanks for the inspiration everyone and the vendors! |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Oct 1 2015, 08:58 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,737 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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You know Mike, that's a lot of 914 for 2 bills, should clean up nice. Get that 1.8L in there running on the MS after the peripheral repairs.
Thought about losing the JC Whitney mirrors? |
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| Mueller |
Oct 1 2015, 09:11 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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To be honest with you, I couldn't have told you if those are stock or aftermarket mirrors...been out of touch for so long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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| shoguneagle |
Oct 1 2015, 10:53 PM
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shoguneagle Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 3-January 03 From: CA, OR, AZ (CAZOR); New Mexico Member No.: 84 Region Association: Northern California |
Mike, I like the car you purchased and as Jeff says, "it will clean up nicely". It has been a while but once you put your head back into the 914 you will be right at home again. You are too much of a high quality "machinist/frustrated engineer" to not get back into stride. If you need any equipment or whatever, just let me know. I do have a mig welder which I can lend you, as an example. This can be done without any time constraints.
I do remember you helped me with software, etc. when I need info and knowledge. Glad you are back in full swing. Steve |
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| Krieger |
Oct 1 2015, 11:40 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,763 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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Looks like a great project! See if you can get the girls involved.
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 1 2015, 11:46 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,819 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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A build-off challenge might be just what you need to keep focused Mike! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| OllieG |
Oct 2 2015, 02:10 AM
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OllieG Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 6-July 11 From: UK Member No.: 13,282 Region Association: England |
Hi Mike,
Did you ever own a white, later sprayed metallic blue, original 6 with fibreglass flares? Bought it in around 2004 in Las Vegas...I sold it since but I'm almost certain it had 'Mike Mueller' on the Title. Cheers, Ollie. |
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| A&P Mech |
Oct 2 2015, 05:57 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 10-September 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,371 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Looks like a great starting point. I can't wait to watch the progress.
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| Olympic 914 |
Oct 2 2015, 06:05 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,707 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 1 2015, 10:42 PM)  Well, I made a deal with the wife that my on going 6 year project car will be driving before I bring the 914 home, that will happen once I install the entire front suspension, install a wiring harness and finish building the engine and install that also. So possibly before the end of the year the 914 will be home! So let get this straight.. You have another project car to finish before you start on this?? You really are a glutton for punishment.. Good luck Looks like a good car to start with.. |
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| tdgray |
Oct 2 2015, 08:51 AM
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Thank God Nemo is not here to see this Group: Members Posts: 9,705 Joined: 5-August 03 From: Akron, OH Member No.: 984 Region Association: None |
I think I'm getting old (okay I know I am)...isn't a 73 supposed to have a 1.7 not a 1.8? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
Maybe I've been '14-less for too long and don't remember correctly |
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| Mueller |
Oct 2 2015, 10:10 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(tdgray @ Oct 2 2015, 07:51 AM) I think I'm getting old (okay I know I am)...isn't a 73 supposed to have a 1.7 not a 1.8? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Maybe I've been '14-less for too long and don't remember correctly You are correct...my bad...I fixed that! ****** Yep, need to finish the other project 1st..at least get it driving which reminds me to call the machine shop and see if my crankshaft can just be polished or does it have to be turned down to fix the scratches on the journals (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ******* I did in fact own an original blue /6 with flares for a few weeks. I bought it and then sold it to BradR, he dumped a bunch of time and some money into it and ended up selling it for the same price I sold it to him for. I thought it went to Germany? I should have kept it! Oh well...lots of things I should have, could have done, hahaha |
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| Andyrew |
Oct 2 2015, 10:24 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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You gonna put roller bearings in the suspension? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| OllieG |
Oct 2 2015, 10:43 AM
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OllieG Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 6-July 11 From: UK Member No.: 13,282 Region Association: England |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 2 2015, 05:10 PM) QUOTE(tdgray @ Oct 2 2015, 07:51 AM) I think I'm getting old (okay I know I am)...isn't a 73 supposed to have a 1.7 not a 1.8? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Maybe I've been '14-less for too long and don't remember correctly You are correct...my bad...I fixed that! ****** Yep, need to finish the other project 1st..at least get it driving which reminds me to call the machine shop and see if my crankshaft can just be polished or does it have to be turned down to fix the scratches on the journals (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ******* I did in fact own an original blue /6 with flares for a few weeks. I bought it and then sold it to BradR, he dumped a bunch of time and some money into it and ended up selling it for the same price I sold it to him for. I thought it went to Germany? I should have kept it! Oh well...lots of things I should have, could have done, hahaha Yep, that's it - I remember a Brad had worked on it. I got it from Steve Hill in Vegas. I keep telling myself I should've kept it too! I shipped it to Germany when I moved from Seattle to a new job in Nuremberg, Germany (although I'm British and now back in the UK now). Last I heard the car's owned by a German car dealer I believe in Ulm near Munich. I guess life is full of 'if onlys'...ah well, onwards and upwards. I have 2 914s now, a driving 6 conversion and a project 6 conversion. Here's a link for old times sake... Blue 914/6 Good luck with your latest project! Ollie. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| EdwardBlume |
Oct 2 2015, 11:20 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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Let me know when you need a hand or a part. Love to help.
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| EdwardBlume |
Oct 2 2015, 11:20 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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Shouldn't your daughters have cats in their hands?
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| madmax914 |
Oct 2 2015, 12:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 16-February 14 From: Salem, Oregon Member No.: 17,007 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
So Mike was the motor built by McMark? What internals are lurking in there? Looks like an awesome build, can't wait to watch the progress!
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| Mueller |
Oct 2 2015, 02:11 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(madmax914 @ Oct 2 2015, 11:27 AM) So Mike was the motor built by McMark? What internals are lurking in there? Looks like an awesome build, can't wait to watch the progress! Nope, supposedly built by HPH, no idea what was done to it. I was told the PO kept chasing fuel injection problems and out of desperation bought a complete running 2.0 to throw in there. The motor looks great, all powder coated parts, the screws that hold the sheet metal on look brand spanking new. I'll pop off the heads to get the broken studs fixed and do a quick inspection. |
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| 914forme |
Oct 2 2015, 02:18 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None
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Say Grasshopper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) God luck Mike, and yes it needs to have roller bearings, and vented 4 bolt fronts.
Not doing that would be like me not putting in a 904 gauge or a quad gauge. Subaru, Subaru, Subaru, Eg33 EG33 EG33 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) you know you want to. Oaky I am done, build it as the 1.7, or it could be a 1.8L as HPH could have done anything they wanted. Short stroke bigger bore type-IV are a great motor. |
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| matthepcat |
Oct 2 2015, 02:27 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
I vote you do the custom drilled bolt pattern for the wheels!!
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