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> Dr Phil’s copper 914 restoration thread- paint and body work on deck- getting fenders fixed and car repainted! New thread to document process, Update:- some finishing touches - constant , never done LOL
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post Oct 28 2017, 11:47 AM
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after 8 years of ownership, and 2 years of rust repair and other such stuff, i am fuinally getting ready to take it to get the fenders repaired the reat of the way and the crappy respray sanded off and car repainted.
i wantes to start a new thread apart from the failed entry into the first rebuild contest. with the help of BillH1963 and a friend of his (Mike) i hope to have this done in 2 months!

i am pulling this motor and transmission today.
stripping car down this week and next week taking bare car with windows out, interior out, up to Mikes shop up near Columbia SC.

They will be sanding it down by hand to the original primer and fixing and missed rust etc not repaired last year- as previously documented the floor pan rust jack points longs and pedal area were all repaired by Chis and Ed at Tangerine Racing in 2016. they also repaire the fender lips that were bent and damaged and massaged the rear fenders out to get room for the 7" fuchs. Now those will be smoothed out the rest of the way.
and a proper match of L99k copper metallic ( goimg with the PPG - thanks for advice on this from Bill Dunster!

will document this for fun and future reference-
car is original matching numbers 2.0 with appearance group car- but i decided this week
since i have 5 lug etc im goimg to back date the bumpers- none of this ruins originality as far as it cant be undone- i thint it will look better too
so here we go!!!


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post Mar 5 2018, 07:01 AM
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been working on getting all my bits together for the
motor, cleaning stripping and repainting some of the tin pieces like the air cooling flaps this past weekend, pulled all the tin off the motor,
pulled the shroud impeller etc to clean behind it all and look for leaks-, replaced the front crank seal too.

The car itself is really close to being ready to paint. Had to source a new driver door- Thanks BigKat Bob for providing one for me! That was stripped last week cleaned up primed etc and fit back on the car.

The last step before pain is to go up and help this weekend do the mods for the bumper back dating- I will post many more pictures this next week when I get to the shop.
I was able to source some bumpers, and right now I am chasing down some quotes for rechroming the bumpers.
Found out I have a 50amp alt which should be 55, might get a rebuilt one that's built to a 75, not sure yet. the costs of stuff and the "while you are there" is adding up. so much easier to do some of this while I have the motor out - like the push rod tube seals, alternator

Big thanks to Bruce Stone for a lot of powdercoated bits! all of the heater accessories like the j-tubes and s branch parts and the beautiful redone fan shroud.
Also the intake runners,

nfrigi - provided me with a late chrome front bumper and tops for front and rear, Thanks Noel

this weekend right here locally I found early door panels with MINT vinyl and pockets!! I will post some pictures. - very by accident one mile from my house there is some wharehouse area, and I see a beautiful aircooled 911 turbo pulled over by local PD, I think it someone I know so I go back around to see where it is and the cop leaves, it goes to a warehouse and there is a half dozen porsches inside getting various rehab- this car is sitting outside and has bee getting prepped for Ameila Island Concourse this week- there is a rare factory 924 race car inside, etc etc and a 1950's Citroen, a really nice mint 912E(1976), etc
he has some 914 stuff he says that he picked up in a batch of other 911 things, and these door panels were there- no warp no cuts not mold or mildew - This guy says he has owned more than 400 Porsche's - hundreds of 356's, a few 914-6's and now just mainly 911 stuff- AND I got an early 8/10 front chrome bumper with out the bumper guard holes and a mint bumper top on it!! it was my lucky(blessed) day!!!

More parts this week and next from Mark and 914 Rubber- just got in a whole new set of vacuum lines from them.

Things I want to do yet but $$ may have to wait-
- send in the throttle body for rebuild and cleaning service but - $350
- get brand new outer rocker panels from Restoration Design but- $$300
- new windshield maybe- I have mine and another no cracks but -est. is $450

I should have the car back in about a month and begin reassembly-
will post some pictures as the day goes on to update all the motor work clean up and parts sourced.

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Philip W.   Dr Phil’s copper 914 restoration thread- paint and body work on deck- getting fenders fixed and car repainted! New thread to document process   Oct 28 2017, 11:47 AM
billh1963   I'm glad you are getting the paint done. This ...   Oct 28 2017, 11:54 AM
Elliot Cannon   That car looks great right now even with the prime...   Oct 28 2017, 12:22 PM
bulitt   Nice! Seems like yesterday you sent it to Chr...   Oct 28 2017, 02:21 PM
Coondog   Are you going delete the side bulbs ??   Oct 28 2017, 03:45 PM
Philip W.   i knownits been over a year since i got it back fr...   Oct 28 2017, 03:55 PM
mgphoto   i knownits been over a year since i got it back f...   Oct 31 2017, 11:41 AM
mgphoto   i knownits been over a year since i got it back f...   Oct 31 2017, 11:50 AM
Philip W.   found this- so i guess the rear foor pan at the fi...   Oct 28 2017, 04:16 PM
Philip W.   hell hole is full of junk - but no rust!   Oct 28 2017, 04:31 PM
Philip W.   this is a pleasant suprise, no rust but huge chunk...   Oct 28 2017, 05:12 PM
Philip W.   Owner 1- Philip DeVore , October 24 1975 LAST own...   Oct 28 2017, 05:46 PM
rick 918-S   Love that color :drooley:   Oct 29 2017, 07:13 AM
Cairo94507   Congratulations on moving your car along to paint....   Oct 29 2017, 07:24 AM
Shadowfax   Exciting! Am a bit envious as I’d love to re...   Oct 29 2017, 08:01 AM
Philip W.   the color has grown on me for sure, Yesterday i w...   Oct 29 2017, 08:33 AM
Dion   Good luck Philip. Subscribed.   Oct 29 2017, 08:59 AM
whitetwinturbo   For old times sake.............paint the 'frid...   Oct 31 2017, 11:13 AM
mepstein   when i pulled the engine on my 4, i jacked up the ...   Oct 31 2017, 12:34 PM
Philip W.   so last night I did a dry run fit to see if jack g...   Oct 31 2017, 01:36 PM
Philip W.   using the bracket from tangerine - it went well ex...   Nov 4 2017, 07:57 PM
Racer Chris   using the bracket from tangerine - So you didn...   Nov 8 2017, 07:23 AM
Philip W.   using the bracket from tangerine - So you didn...   Nov 8 2017, 12:45 PM
Philip W.   and out-   Nov 4 2017, 07:58 PM
Philip W.   i dont normally do pictures of myself , thought it...   Nov 4 2017, 08:12 PM
Philip W.   how does one remove the rear bumper cover?   Nov 4 2017, 08:16 PM
Philip W.   also need a better picture of how the bar is suppo...   Nov 4 2017, 08:32 PM
914Sixer   BUB come off with two bolts each. Disconnect and ...   Nov 5 2017, 08:14 AM
Philip W.   BUB come off with two bolts each. Disconnect and...   Nov 5 2017, 05:16 PM
Philip W.   also i have the window trim off - completely loose...   Nov 5 2017, 05:20 PM
Philip W.   interior partly out   Nov 5 2017, 05:32 PM
Philip W.   one small sopt of rust thru on the targa area on ...   Nov 5 2017, 05:37 PM
Philip W.   rear window out, no rust surprises here , pretty c...   Nov 5 2017, 06:08 PM
mepstein   The sails had foam so they rust from the inside ou...   Nov 5 2017, 06:08 PM
Philip W.   The sails had foam so they rust from the inside o...   Nov 5 2017, 06:11 PM
Philip W.   more good news!! window is out , no rust u...   Nov 7 2017, 06:28 PM
Perry Kiehl   Lookin' good Phil! Looks like you are doi...   Nov 7 2017, 08:52 PM
Philip W.   Perry, i've been encouraged by finding less r...   Nov 7 2017, 09:37 PM
Philip W.   just a reminder of some of the challenges along th...   Nov 7 2017, 09:42 PM
billh1963   Phil, Was good seeing you Saturday! Thank you ...   Nov 12 2017, 04:34 PM
Philip W.   Guys, I don't have a picture to post - but car...   Nov 13 2017, 11:35 AM
mepstein   If you think the early bumpers look way better, do...   Nov 13 2017, 12:20 PM
Philip W.   If you think the early bumpers look way better, d...   Nov 16 2017, 10:20 AM
Philip W.   also I found that pelican has some of the chrome ...   Nov 16 2017, 10:27 AM
Cairo94507   Hi Phillip, I think you will be very happy with t...   Nov 17 2017, 07:32 AM
Philip W.   will be looking for bumpers to back date with - un...   Nov 27 2017, 08:47 AM
Coondog   Congrats on your decision to back date your bumper...   Nov 27 2017, 09:23 AM
AZBanks   :ttiwwp:   Nov 27 2017, 09:56 AM
Coondog   :ttiwwp: Really !!!! I coun...   Nov 27 2017, 10:06 AM
Philip W.   :ttiwwp: Really !!!! I cou...   Nov 27 2017, 11:03 AM
Larmo63   Backdate now, you'll be so glad you did.   Nov 27 2017, 10:10 AM
Philip W.   mess and a bit of rust in the fender wells behind ...   Nov 27 2017, 11:05 AM
Philip W.   original copper undwr the window trim show the dif...   Nov 27 2017, 11:07 AM
Philip W.   front foot well with the foam out, this will all g...   Nov 27 2017, 11:08 AM
Philip W.   can you name that wire??   Nov 27 2017, 11:09 AM
mepstein   can you name that wire?? Erg wire   Nov 27 2017, 01:44 PM
Philip W.   can you name that wire?? Erg wire Winner...   Nov 27 2017, 02:10 PM
Philip W.   progress! finally some pictures to post old ...   Dec 19 2017, 09:45 PM
Philip W.   update coming! car should be ready for paint i...   Feb 22 2018, 02:05 PM
Philip W.   been working on getting all my bits together for t...   Mar 5 2018, 07:01 AM
Philip W.   dirty motor   Mar 5 2018, 07:28 AM
Philip W.   so dirty, lots of undercoating spray and 40 years ...   Mar 5 2018, 07:37 AM
Philip W.   so much nicer !   Mar 5 2018, 07:40 AM
Philip W.   shroud back on but the Alternator cover i got is ...   Mar 5 2018, 07:43 AM
Philip W.   assembling the new clean runners with zinc plates ...   Mar 5 2018, 07:47 AM
Philip W.   new motor mounts and brackets   Mar 5 2018, 07:48 AM
Philip W.   i ulled the oil cooler to put in new seals ans als...   Mar 5 2018, 07:54 AM
Philip W.   thanks 914 rubber for another great part   Mar 5 2018, 07:56 AM
Philip W.   bumpers!   Mar 5 2018, 08:00 AM
Philip W.   feont bumper with top- i have 2 now ans will have ...   Mar 5 2018, 08:09 AM
Philip W.   this one has the holes for bunper guards and has a...   Mar 5 2018, 08:12 AM
Philip W.   new door panels! these are really like new its...   Mar 5 2018, 08:13 AM
Philip W.   and an undamaged drivers pocket   Mar 5 2018, 08:14 AM
Philip W.   so new door, was way better than the old ine with ...   Mar 7 2018, 01:05 PM
Mblizzard   Amazing Progress! will be the star of Okteen...   Mar 7 2018, 02:27 PM
Philip W.   i will be helping with the bumper back date this w...   Mar 7 2018, 02:48 PM
rhodyguy   #66 is a great example of the brackets/mounts as p...   Mar 7 2018, 03:17 PM
rhodyguy   will this one work for you Phil? came off of a 1.7...   Mar 7 2018, 06:11 PM
mepstein   What color?   Mar 7 2018, 07:07 PM
Philip W.   What color? what color is the car going to be?? ...   Mar 7 2018, 09:06 PM
Philip W.   will this one work for you Phil? came off of a 1....   Mar 7 2018, 09:07 PM
Philip W.   did the back date work on the car today- front was...   Mar 10 2018, 05:06 PM
Philip W.   holes primmed ans side brackets taken off, ground ...   Mar 10 2018, 05:08 PM
Philip W.   boy these fenders look great! almost done- Mik...   Mar 10 2018, 05:13 PM
Philip W.   other side- - thats it until i get the tin back in...   Mar 10 2018, 05:15 PM
pete000   That color is going look fantastic with the chrome...   Mar 10 2018, 05:45 PM
Philip W.   got a bit more done with motor tin over the weeken...   Mar 19 2018, 09:17 AM
Mblizzard   got a bit more done with motor tin over the weeke...   Mar 19 2018, 09:54 AM
Philip W.   got a bit more done with motor tin over the week...   Mar 19 2018, 12:03 PM
914 7T3   - every day I wake up thinking of things to sou...   Mar 19 2018, 07:40 PM
Philip W.   these 2 pictures you can see the bend or crease of...   Mar 19 2018, 12:07 PM
Philip W.   rusty long on passenger side and drivers side   Mar 19 2018, 12:09 PM
Philip W.   removal process began - drivers side half floor pa...   Mar 19 2018, 12:11 PM
Philip W.   fender lip repair, then worked some by Ed to get m...   Mar 19 2018, 12:14 PM
Philip W.   a few more pictures of the long and jack points re...   Mar 19 2018, 12:17 PM
Philip W.   will get more off the phone later, - back to work...   Mar 19 2018, 12:18 PM
Philip W.   out with old and in with new, new zinc plates part...   Mar 19 2018, 04:05 PM
Mblizzard   out with old and in with new, new zinc plates par...   Mar 19 2018, 05:14 PM
Philip W.   i will bet this throttle body didnt look this good...   Apr 3 2018, 10:08 PM
Philip W.   just talked to mike, touch up and repairs done wel...   Apr 4 2018, 08:29 AM
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