Fix a six, Like Neil Young says...rust is an insomniac Options

[Speedo]

This thread has me afraid of what I might find.

This was a "dry" car. I paid what I felt was fair given that I was pretty sure...what I was going to find. After sandblasting I found way more than I ever anticipated. Thank god this was not an east coast car...sorry Luke!

But, there is a tremendous amount of satisfaction bringing the chassis back after finding all the "problems". These cars are "erector sets" for adults. And the restorations become addictive. Engine rebuilds are a piece of cake compared to bringing back a rusty chassis...me thinks.

Speedo

[Speedo]

Oh and Brant.....

I am reminded. Maybe I have actually morphed?


post Jun 20 2012, 06:57 PM

Post #40

you're moving much too fast to be a real 914 guy...
all this in 2 weeks and the thing isn't on jack stands yet

you need to slow down for a year or two if you want to be a true teener fan....

[Ferg]

Oh and Brant.....

I am reminded. Maybe I have actually morphed?


post Jun 20 2012, 06:57 PM

Post #40

you're moving much too fast to be a real 914 guy...
all this in 2 weeks and the thing isn't on jack stands yet

you need to slow down for a year or two if you want to be a true teener fan....

Whoops (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

[Speedo]

Before I re-attach the bottom of the latch panel and outer rear quarter, I want to evaluate the access I need to finish up the longitudinal repair under the hell hole. I have looked through a lot of threads on this repair...many ways to skin this cat. RD steel for the inner longitudinal confused me. Top of mine appeared to be two layers, their panel was one layer and looked like my inner steel. This thread cleared it up...

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;#entry2325382

I will now deconstruct and evaluate.

[Speedo]

I realize that you guys have seen tons of hell hole repairs before. So if you are bored with this sitcom, don't watch. As I am new to 914s, and having never repaired this area...I am going to try to repair my car as true to the original construction process as possible, while strengthening this area. You have seen this before...
Outer top of the longitudinal and obviously why it was kicked off the team
The inner reinforcement which I was considering reusing. However, it is swiss cheese currently. I could weld up the holes and extend a patch to replace the forward rusted area....but how much of its original reinforcement quality would remain?

[Speedo]

I made a buck to help shape the inner
Fitted and trimmed but notice I had to trim the outer long lower to be able to attach the inner reinforcement. This will get spot welded/rossetted to the outer patch.
I used the RD outer long as a template for the patch

This is a PIA but it will be stronger in the long run

[Speedo]

Continuing with the outer patch
Fitting the inner...which has to be exact so the outer lays snugly over the inner
Trimmed
The inner needs to be carefully positioned so that when the outer patch is laid over it, the rosettes can be easily welded in creating the strength necessary. Yes it would have been easier to splice in the top of the RD repro piece and be done with it. Cleaned out the long and primed it for welding. I cannot shape and trim the outer patch till the inner is welded and finished. My pressure relief valve on my compressor crapped itself....today. Otherwise I would have been welding.

[porschetub]

No one is bored speedo,having seen you carve up rotten 911's on the bird,what you are doing is same shit different car really.
Good work following with interest (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Cairo94507]

I love these restoration threads. Talk about seeing behind the curtain to what makes our cars the wonders they are. The talent we all see here and other build threads is very impressive. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

[Luke M]

Hi Lars,


The repair looks good. The problem with the RD part (which is actually a AA part) is that it's missing the smooth outer sheet metal. I was told it's just a cosmetic piece that could be added by the end user.
When that replacement part was designed it was made in a thicker gauge metal so there was no need for the outer sheet metal. Obviously anyone could tell that there was a repair done if it was left as is. RD was nice enough to offer building me an outer shell but I decided to look for an NOS replacement part.
I did locate a new NOS right long but it's currently not for sale.
So my backup plan is to buy a good or at least better section from a parts car.

Keep up the good work ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Speedo]

Inner reinforcement is done and trimmed...feels pretty solid. I used a sleeve on both ends.
Which should add even more rigidity to the repaired area. Clecoes to align and rosettes to secure
And secured and trimmed. I am pleased with how this inner panel turned out. It will
provide a great form for fitting the outside longitudinal repair.

[Speedo]

I now need to finish the outer patch to the longitudinal. My original piece fabricated using the RD 14 gauge "all in one" wasn't as close as I wanted...it ended up being short. I didn't have a way to fit the RD piece in that area to determine the fit, without cutting it up...so I went on faith. Here is the fit of my piece.
And here is how short the fabricated piece is, fitting tight to the wheel housing wall
No big deal, I added an extension. Preliminary fitment
Massaged a bit
And starting to roll the edges to mimic the original contour of the factory outer longitudinal
Once trimmed this will get buttoned up and I will be able to address the battery support and tray

[brant]

Great work.

[Speedo]

I'm about to close up the hellhole. I have a new pedestal and battery tray (thanks Ferg) and am wondering about positioning both on the repaired longitudinal. Are there any measurements I need to be concerned with?

Speedo

[Speedo]

Looking forward to not working in the engine compartment. This longitudinal repair is going to be robust. I have not considered welding in the plate reinforcement kit for the car for a couple reasons...1) it is a real six, 2) it will be driven but not tracked, and 3) it will not receive a monster engine. Comments are welcome.
Wanted the outer long cap to fit tight. So I need to trim and massage it.
I want it to look clean (recognizing it is buried in the engine compartment and pretty much obscured by the battery tray) so everything needs to be close tolerance.
Fit, positioned and drilled for rosettes.

This is a long ways from what I started with...much different than the replacement one piece RD part

[Speedo]

A little bit more fitting is required. Comparison to the RD repro...
Not to dis RDs repro parts as they are what I consider to be the best repro parts out there...but they still are not perfect. My cap on the long is particular to my car which was built "sort of" by hand in the factory 46 years ago.
The assistant

[Cairo94507]

Terrific job. I appreciate the effort you are putting in, especially since it is a Six.

I added the inner Engman kit in my Six just because I know these cars can flex. I also am putting a 3.2 in mine and though I will not be racing the car, I know the 3.2 has double the HP and torque of the stock 2.0. I figured it goes on the inside and will be invisible when finished. Shhhhhh....don't tell anyone it is installed.

[Speedo]

I continue to look at other longitudinal repair threads. People are all over the spectrum with how the repair is approached. I am very comfortable with my repair.
Replacing the inner sleeve...as well as "sleeving" the patch makes sense for me.
New vs old
No reason not to make this permanent
I am challenged with weather at this point...don't like to weld in a closed environment. But the garage door opened is about 29 degrees because of this...

[Speedo]

I will weld this in this afternoon...if I can open the garage door, but I need to accomplish a small repair to keep the juices flowing. Battery support was replaced at one point...and not very well. Here is my support and tray... Not the best of shape
Part of the problem is the previous repair and part of the problem is what was needed to remove the stand from the weakened longitudinal.
I removed the support from the tray
It wasn't in great shape.

[Speedo]

So with the stand removed from the tray....there were some areas that needed attention. This needs to be repaired...
And this
Made some repairs
And reshaping