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> Fix a six, Like Neil Young says...rust is an insomniac
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post May 1 2016, 07:57 PM
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Couple more pics before I remove and drill for plug welds and prime.Attached Image Attached ImageAttached ImageAttached Image
Everything look ok? No glaring problems? In retrospect, Had I waited to weld the tray on, I would have had more room to weld the lower section of the shelf...NBD.

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post May 2 2016, 07:04 AM
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Lars,

I think the shelf needs to be lowered a little . I circled it in the pic. Give me sometime here and I'll go measure the one on my 6. Otherwise the ends look good.


Here's what I got on my 6..

#1 : from the top of the brake line bracket to the bottom of the shelf is 1 3/4''

#2 : from the top of the shelf to the top of the inner control arm mount is 4''

#3 : from the top of the shelf to (middle) top of chassis is 2 1/2''

hope this helps you out.


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post May 2 2016, 11:43 AM
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Thanks Luke. For your generous measurements...what part of the shelf are you measuring to? I am going to presume roughly the area where the shelf physically touches the chassis, not the outer lip with the rubber channel?

Figured it makes sense to ask as all I have left from the old shelf are a few barely visible ground down spot welds.
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post May 2 2016, 12:33 PM
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Hello Speedo,

perhaps this picture helps a little bit.


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post May 2 2016, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(Speedo @ May 2 2016, 10:43 AM) *

Thanks Luke. For your generous measurements...what part of the shelf are you measuring to? I am going to presume roughly the area where the shelf physically touches the chassis, not the outer lip with the rubber channel?

Figured it makes sense to ask as all I have left from the old shelf are a few barely visible ground down spot welds.



I took the measurements as close to the chassis as possible. On the shelf itself not the lip that's bent up. Make any sense to you?
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post May 3 2016, 11:07 AM
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Excellent...thanks guys!
I was going by where the shelf seemed to fit best "out of the box".
Glad I asked the question.
Down it goes....
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post May 3 2016, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(Speedo @ May 4 2016, 05:07 AM) *

Excellent...thanks guys!
I was going by where the shelf seemed to fit best "out of the box".
Glad I asked the question.
Down it goes....


do you still have the original mounting bracket for the cdi unit ?,attaches to the front of the battery box.
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post May 3 2016, 07:33 PM
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Uh oh...what does it look like?
I am good with recognizing shapes and colors....at least me pre-school teacher told my mom something like that.


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QUOTE(Speedo @ May 4 2016, 05:07 AM) *

Excellent...thanks guys!
I was going by where the shelf seemed to fit best "out of the box".
Glad I asked the question.
Down it goes....


do you still have the original mounting bracket for the cdi unit ?,attaches to the front of the battery box.
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post May 4 2016, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE(Speedo @ May 3 2016, 06:33 PM) *

Uh oh...what does it look like?
I am good with recognizing shapes and colors....at least me pre-school teacher told my mom something like that.


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QUOTE(Speedo @ May 4 2016, 05:07 AM) *

Excellent...thanks guys!
I was going by where the shelf seemed to fit best "out of the box".
Glad I asked the question.
Down it goes....


do you still have the original mounting bracket for the cdi unit ?,attaches to the front of the battery box.




Lars,

The cdi bracket mounts to the front of the battery box like in the pic.
It's hard to tell what the bracket looks like mounted. Let me see if I have a pic of just the bracket.


#2 in the parts diagram is the cdi mounting bracket.


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post May 4 2016, 07:09 PM
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I can't remember where the CDI was mounted, but it wasn't on the battery tray...that I remember. I will need to find it in my 6 stuff ...maybe I removed it with the bracket? Does RD stamp those?
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post May 5 2016, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE(Speedo @ May 4 2016, 06:09 PM) *

I can't remember where the CDI was mounted, but it wasn't on the battery tray...that I remember. I will need to find it in my 6 stuff ...maybe I removed it with the bracket? Does RD stamp those?



I don't think RD makes repo cdi mounting brackets.
If you check ebay they show up here n there.
IIRC AA makes a repo one (they call it a Control Unit Bracket, 914-6).
I'm not a fan of AA but not sure if anyone else carries them.
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post May 5 2016, 08:34 AM
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Check with CDI unit as it generally stays with the unit. Don't do what I tried- bolt the bracket in then try to mount the CDI........duh
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post May 5 2016, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(Luke M @ May 6 2016, 01:55 AM) *

QUOTE(Speedo @ May 4 2016, 06:09 PM) *

I can't remember where the CDI was mounted, but it wasn't on the battery tray...that I remember. I will need to find it in my 6 stuff ...maybe I removed it with the bracket? Does RD stamp those?



I don't think RD makes repo cdi mounting brackets.
If you check ebay they show up here n there.
IIRC AA makes a repo one (they call it a Control Unit Bracket, 914-6).
I'm not a fan of AA but not sure if anyone else carries them.


Yes saw the AA one,looked a bit roughly made,pretty sure they are the only people making them.
I intent to make something similar and don't really care if its not the same,my cars not a pure breed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Mounted as they are in the original -6 appears they are tucked away from the weather is this the best place?.
Speedo appears you are powering thru this build @ your usual pace,I guess it must be a learning curve working on a different model?.
Keep up the good work,watching this resto with interest (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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post May 7 2016, 09:50 PM
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Dug through all my 6 stuff. PO had gone to Pertronix and it was mounted somewhere...just not on the battery tray. So I guess I need to find a repro somewhere...or an original, or make one
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post May 9 2016, 07:58 PM
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First up, is the CDI mount stamped steel, or aluminum. I have never seen one. Does anyone have a used one for sale or to lend so I can make one?
Second...here is the "massaged" shelf. I took for granted (bad idea) that the self as stamped was pretty close. It was sort of close...but needed to be wacked a bit. Me thinks it looks much better. Comments?
Lastly I am reconsidering the 2.7 idea. It would need a cooler...period. I have looked at many threads involving creative "coolering" and I haven't found anything I am excited about. Maybe I just build a hot 2.2 and do my pulley modification to bring the temps down. As this is a stock six, I should minimize the modifications...whadayathink?Attached Image Attached ImageAttached ImageAttached Image
Compared to the left side of the engine compartment...nice factory welding (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Attached Image
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post May 9 2016, 08:33 PM
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Keep plugging away....
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post May 9 2016, 10:35 PM
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I have kinda an S spec 2.4. Very entertaining and has not run over 180 degrees yet on a stock cooler. Highly recommended.

Great thread, impressive fab skills !!
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post May 10 2016, 05:59 AM
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Hi Lars,

The shelf position looks good. When we installed the shelf on my brothers 914 I tried to weld the shelf at points where it's kinda hard to see once the engine is in. The sides along the inner mount you can't get away from but you can still do a clean install.

The cdi mount is made from steel. I have the one off my 6 somewhere and cold take some close up pics for you. It should be easy enough to make unless your going for that org look?

I didn't want to butcher my 6 doing a front oil cooler install too. What I came up with was doing something close to what Elephant Racing sells. I'll be using the GT/PMS oil cooler kit in the front trunk with the least amount of cutting as possible. I'm going with the 2.7 RS spec engine so a front cooler is a must.


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post May 10 2016, 09:30 AM
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I vote 2.2, you may be able to squeak by without one, and if one is needed it could be a small rear mount.

Who is going to paint this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif)
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post May 16 2016, 07:16 PM
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Who is going to paint this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif)


You are (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif)
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