Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

39 Pages V < 1 2 3 4 > »   
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> '73 Resto & Suby 6 Conversion, or a primer on "How to convert your 914 to a Subaru 3.0"
76-914
post Jan 20 2013, 11:40 AM
Post #21


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Jan 19 2013, 07:35 PM) *

OK this is the first time I have seen this thread and I have to say it........don't climb under the car on those jack stands!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This is a must read! Jack Stands

Yea, I read that. Did you read this? http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=139114&hl= Besides these jacks stands, fully collapsed, are 19.5" which would allow for me and a most of my tools. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thanks for looking out for me though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Jan 20 2013, 10:05 PM
Post #22


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



I got around to welding on the r&l long stiffners before I ran out of wire. First thing was to get it supported on the killer jack stands. These were perfect because I wasn't under the car and they are low enough that I can get my ancient ass in & out when welding.
Attached Image

Next was to level it. I used the bubble and the electronic app. Both work great.

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

I then marked 3 spots on each door and measured the gaps before I began welding onto the longs.

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Jan 20 2013, 10:06 PM
Post #23


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



When I was banging around bracing the panels with 2 x's I knocked the big urethane floorboard piece loose. I was going to work around it if possible just to preserve that OG floor so this is a plus.
Attached Image

A little more scraping with the razor. mineral spirits to remove the old glue and remaining tar and this too will be clean in 20 min's.
Attached Image

Talk about Engman Quality. Look at the fit between the rear and left piece.

Attached Image

Same view but tacked up

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
FourBlades
post Jan 20 2013, 10:10 PM
Post #24


From Wreck to Rockin
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,056
Joined: 3-December 07
From: Brevard, FL
Member No.: 8,414
Region Association: South East States




Nice work man! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

John
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Jan 20 2013, 10:23 PM
Post #25


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



Here is another view of the same corner but with the top of the corner piece now formed to meet the rounded corner.

Attached Image

A close up of that "formed" piece. Me thinks beat to death is more appropriate.

Attached Image

And this is where I'm at until I get by the welding shop and restock my .023.

Attached Image

That bottom right hole that is blown wasn't cleaned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) so I'll move left 3mm and tack it in the seam where it is clean.
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Jan 22 2013, 09:01 PM
Post #26


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



I finally finished the welding of the Engman kit. I didn't purty it up for these pic's. I still need to grind down a few welds, vacuum and prime the bare spots. It looks like Hell now but a little Wurth's and some paint will clean it up. I'm glad that I ran out of the .023 because I also bought some .030 and had much better results on the longs w/ the .030. Faster = less heat. Doors shut just as sweet as before. It's back on the ground. Into the Hell Hole and on to the firewall patch next. I need to clean up some p/o welds around the hinges and battery tray. I think they attempted arc welding. Looks like a mud dabbers nest. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) I guess I had better start thinking cooling while I'm in the cut n patch mode. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Attached Image
Attached Image
Attached Image
Attached Image
Attached Image
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Jan 24 2013, 10:13 PM
Post #27


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



and
Attached Image
Attached Image
Attached Image
Attached Image
Attached Image
Attached Image
Attached Image
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jimkelly
post Jan 25 2013, 03:52 AM
Post #28


Delaware USA
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,969
Joined: 5-August 04
From: Delaware, USA
Member No.: 2,460
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region



fantastic pics (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

do you plan to seam seal the entire perimeter and perferations? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Jan 25 2013, 01:24 PM
Post #29


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



Thx Jim, and yes I have some Wurth's seam sealer that will go on before I paint it.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Jan 25 2013, 01:51 PM
Post #30


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



Just got off the phone after discussing metal shrinkage with Ceasar (phatt911) and realized that this might be of some use to those considering a stiffner kit. As shown in an earlier pic, I measured the door gap at 3 equidistant locations on both doors prior to any welding on the long portions. I did NOT brace the door but did this instead. After leveling (and that is a trick) the car I would weld 3 spots (front, middle and rear to keep the weld spots spread out) on one side and then move to the other side and repeat. Never welding any area unless the metal was cool enough to place my dinkus upon. If additional time was needed I would do some grinding instead. After 6 or 8 welds on each side I would check the door gaps again. I welded all of the vertical spots (or sides) before doing the tops. The shrinkage that I experienced was .37mm after welding the sides. After welding the top portions the shrinkage increased to 1mm nominally. Or .63mm. Amazing! Half the area and half as many holes as the sides, yet twice the shrinkage. I had suspected this might be the case and had therefor left the top on during construction just in case. I think that bracing the door is the more prudent action but I like to test the water for myself from time to time and these are my results. Disclaimer: Your results will probably vary. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
andys
post Jan 25 2013, 02:04 PM
Post #31


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,165
Joined: 21-May 03
From: Valencia, CA
Member No.: 721
Region Association: None



Here are my before and after dimensions. Red is after, units are in inches. The lower parts of the door gap didn't change much, so I omitted those.

Andys



Attached image(s)
Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Jan 25 2013, 05:40 PM
Post #32


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



Similar results. Within .01" (.027mm) +/- of each other. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
eric9144
post Jan 25 2013, 06:01 PM
Post #33


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,744
Joined: 30-March 11
From: San Diego, CA
Member No.: 12,876
Region Association: Southern California



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) This should make the Dawn Patrols more interesting, now we're all going to have "stiffy" envy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Chris H.
post Jan 26 2013, 07:28 AM
Post #34


Senior Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,048
Joined: 2-January 03
From: Chicago 'burbs
Member No.: 73
Region Association: Upper MidWest



Top notch details on the Engman install. Thanks a lot for posting.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Jan 26 2013, 07:01 PM
Post #35


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



So I started with the firewall patch/repair today. Here is the psg side before cutting.

Attached Image

and this was the drv side

Attached Image

some beginning cuts removing just the rust areas and then enlarging the cuts in preparation for final trimming.

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Jan 26 2013, 07:01 PM
Post #36


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



lfjuysblfc

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
stateofidleness
post Jan 27 2013, 12:33 AM
Post #37


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 810
Joined: 1-September 07
From: Canyon Lake, Texas!
Member No.: 8,065
Region Association: None



*subscribed*

in the same boat. i'll take all the knowledge i can get! (never touched a welder before.. got one for christmas. this'll be my first "small" project with it)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Feb 1 2013, 06:10 PM
Post #38


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



So while I wait for the "correct" size of steel to patch the firewall I thought I would clean up the engine compartment and see if I could find anymore rust. There is a bunch of the old mat stuck to it..........

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

And this looks a little suspicious. Rivets and a rough finish on the panel.

Attached Image

Then there is the matter of this booger by the PO.

Attached Image

So I drill out the rivets and look what I find. Has anyone seen these before. Obviously stamped steel so mfg'd by someone.

Attached Image

Once they're out this is all that was left of the tray. The pedestal was in good shape but I doubt I will relo a batt here.

Attached Image

Couple of pic's while getting cleaned. These holes need to be welded up

Attached Image

And a small patch here

Attached Image

Attached Image

One booger mostly ground down

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Feb 1 2013, 06:10 PM
Post #39


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



%90 clean. A little more here and there then patch n prime. The side wall behind the batt cleaned up pretty good, too. A little pitted so it will be treated to a phospho shower.

Attached Image

The rest has cleaned up quite well.

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
76-914
post Feb 3 2013, 06:15 PM
Post #40


Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 13,634
Joined: 23-January 09
From: Temecula, CA
Member No.: 9,964
Region Association: Southern California



So I need to fill some holes where the batt tray was riveted to the panel. If you look closely you can see the copper spoon thru the holes.

Attached Image

and now they're ground down and gone

Attached Image

a shot of primer to ward off the rust gods

Attached Image

Here is another spot that needs to be filled. Oops, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I need to re-size these pic's and continue in the next post.

Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

39 Pages V < 1 2 3 4 > » 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
3 User(s) are reading this topic (3 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 22nd November 2024 - 01:10 AM