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> 914RS4 Tube Chassis 996 Suspension Audi 2.7TT Stage 3, ADDED RECAROS
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post Jun 18 2016, 06:07 PM
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Here is the mock up of the rear suspension along with some measurements and an Autocad drawing of the rear end.


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post Jun 18 2016, 07:38 PM
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Looks sweet! Lots of work, but that kind of work is Fun work!
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post Jun 18 2016, 10:12 PM
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Challenging exhaust.....
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post Jun 19 2016, 09:20 PM
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Looks sweet! Lots of work, but that kind of work is Fun work!
Yep isn't that the truth. Fun Work!!
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post Jun 19 2016, 09:24 PM
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Challenging exhaust.....
It used to be challenging. Not with this though. Check out this exhaust modeling system. It's like a Lego snap together plastic header pieces that are indexed and then can be cut to the sizes that are needed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1THlAZ2BqI
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post Jun 19 2016, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Jun 18 2016, 09:12 PM) *

Challenging exhaust.....
It used to be challenging. Not with this though. Check out this exhaust modeling system. It's like a Lego snap together plastic header pieces that are indexed and then can be cut to the sizes that are needed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1THlAZ2BqI


Have you priced that setup yet?

Too $$$ for me!

Would be nice if you could rent it.
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post Jun 19 2016, 11:02 PM
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Little teaser as to what the frame will look like.


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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jun 19 2016, 08:52 PM) *

QUOTE(Curbandgutter @ Jun 19 2016, 08:24 PM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ Jun 18 2016, 09:12 PM) *

Challenging exhaust.....
It used to be challenging. Not with this though. Check out this exhaust modeling system. It's like a Lego snap together plastic header pieces that are indexed and then can be cut to the sizes that are needed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1THlAZ2BqI


Have you priced that setup yet?

Too $$$ for me!

Would be nice if you could rent it.

Yeah I know. I'll buy it and then rent it out to the group. But yeah it is pricey.
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post Jun 19 2016, 11:15 PM
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Little teaser as to what the frame will look like.

That floor looks a little weak, No X brace in the floor or a horizontal where the pedals are?

That rear looks beefy as heck! I think you should remove the rear floor all together. Gonna be hard to raise the engine/trans in.
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post Jun 20 2016, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(Curbandgutter @ Jun 19 2016, 10:02 PM) *

Little teaser as to what the frame will look like.

That floor looks a little weak, No X brace in the floor or a horizontal where the pedals are?

That rear looks beefy as heck! I think you should remove the rear floor all together. Gonna be hard to raise the engine/trans in.
Don't forget that the floor diaphragm is there to take the shears. The cross bracing is at the transmission - rear suspension area. I will be providing tube clamps to be able to remove the struts when needed. Good eye though.
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post Jun 21 2016, 09:08 AM
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I went to Rudy's Saturday to check out his project and to meet a local fellow teener. He has a nice 2 year project and 5 son's for helpers. That's a good start. Here is a pic of the "suspension" donor car.

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And here is what burned it down. The Stereo or should I say Stereo installer. This is why you don't let the idiots at oil change centers/stereo shops touch your car. Check out the grommets. Oh, wait a minute. There aren't any.

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I took a crappy pic here but this is the stereo's main ground block. I has 4 places for bolts to attach to the body. Can you see that is it is held on by one sheet rock screw that isn't even fully pulled down. So in essence, no friggin ground. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) And judging from that #4 positive cable I'm guessing it was north of 200w.

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post Jun 21 2016, 09:25 AM
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I went to Rudy's Saturday to check out his project and to meet a local fellow teener. He has a nice 2 year project and 5 son's for helpers. That's a good start. Here is a pic of the "suspension" donor car.



And here is what burned it down. The Stereo or should I say Stereo installer. This is why you don't let the idiots at oil change centers/stereo shops touch your car. Check out the grommets. Oh, wait a minute. There aren't any.



I took a crappy pic here but this is the stereo's main ground block. I has 4 places for bolts to attach to the body. Can you see that is it is held on by one sheet rock screw that isn't even fully pulled down. So in essence, no friggin ground. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) And judging from that #4 positive cable I'm guessing it was north of 200w.


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Rudy cleaning the new suspension



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Is he related to Z.....flip flops!

hahaha
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post Jun 21 2016, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(Curbandgutter @ Jun 19 2016, 10:02 PM) *

Little teaser as to what the frame will look like.



Great project for sure!

Did you check the SCCA rules with regard to how high the roll bar has to be over a helmet? I was surprised how high the roll bar has to be....

The Solo roll bar standards are here:

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/scca/....pdf?1458925428
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post Jun 21 2016, 12:21 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) The top of that rollbar must be 2" above the drivers helmet, UNLESS that height would interfere with the operation or fit of the OEM top. In that case the driver's helmet must be below a straightedge bridging between the top of the windshield header and the top of the rollbar over the driver's head(the "broomstick test").

So keep your top on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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QUOTE(Randal @ Jun 21 2016, 09:17 AM) *

QUOTE(Curbandgutter @ Jun 19 2016, 10:02 PM) *

Little teaser as to what the frame will look like.



Great project for sure!

Did you check the SCCA rules with regard to high the roll bar has to be over a helmet? I was surprised how high the roll bar has to be....


For SCCA, doesn't the main hoop have to have a cross bar, and all of it in a single plane? I.e. no fore/aft bends.
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QUOTE(Randal @ Jun 21 2016, 10:17 AM) *

QUOTE(Curbandgutter @ Jun 19 2016, 10:02 PM) *

Little teaser as to what the frame will look like.



Great project for sure!

Did you check the SCCA rules with regard to how high the roll bar has to be over a helmet? I was surprised how high the roll bar has to be....

The Solo roll bar standards are here:

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/scca/....pdf?1458925428
Would you happen to have the Roll Cage Standards?
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post Jun 21 2016, 03:16 PM
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I went to Rudy's Saturday to check out his project and to meet a local fellow teener. He has a nice 2 year project and 5 son's for helpers. That's a good start. Here is a pic of the "suspension" donor car.

And here is what burned it down. The Stereo or should I say Stereo installer. This is why you don't let the idiots at oil change centers/stereo shops touch your car. Check out the grommets. Oh, wait a minute. There aren't any.

I took a crappy pic here but this is the stereo's main ground block. I has 4 places for bolts to attach to the body. Can you see that is it is held on by one sheet rock screw that isn't even fully pulled down. So in essence, no friggin ground. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) And judging from that #4 positive cable I'm guessing it was north of 200w.

Rudy's '74 in a shell state

Rudy cleaning the new suspension


Is he related to Z.....flip flops!

hahaha

hahahaha So Cal boy for sure. You gotta have the board shorts and flip flops. But that day ended up being in triple digits so it was perfect.
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I went to Rudy's Saturday to check out his project and to meet a local fellow teener. He has a nice 2 year project and 5 son's for helpers. That's a good start. Here is a pic of the "suspension" donor car.

And here is what burned it down. The Stereo or should I say Stereo installer. This is why you don't let the idiots at oil change centers/stereo shops touch your car. Check out the grommets. Oh, wait a minute. There aren't any.

I took a crappy pic here but this is the stereo's main ground block. I has 4 places for bolts to attach to the body. Can you see that is it is held on by one sheet rock screw that isn't even fully pulled down. So in essence, no friggin ground. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) And judging from that #4 positive cable I'm guessing it was north of 200w.

Rudy's '74 in a shell state

Rudy cleaning the new suspension
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QUOTE(Curbandgutter @ Jun 21 2016, 02:14 PM) *

QUOTE(Randal @ Jun 21 2016, 10:17 AM) *

QUOTE(Curbandgutter @ Jun 19 2016, 10:02 PM) *

Little teaser as to what the frame will look like.



Great project for sure!

Did you check the SCCA rules with regard to how high the roll bar has to be over a helmet? I was surprised how high the roll bar has to be....

The Solo roll bar standards are here:

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/scca/....pdf?1458925428
Would you happen to have the Roll Cage Standards?


I put a link in my post and here it is again:

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/scca/....pdf?1458925428

And I believe all the SCCA rules are listed here:

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/scca/....pdf?1445897037
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Well I started to analyze the frame and found that the front windshield bar (the one in red) will need to be upsized. I wasn't expecting that. Also, I wasn't expecting to stiffen the longs (n14 to n13) but after today's, result, looks like it's a must to stiffen the longs even with a roll cage. Attached Image
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