PIX, Pix Of Enlightenment Options

[veekry9]

What's not to like?An alloy hemi V8.
And it's "Teutonic".




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEFJ9kkFGN0


6:1 comp 2.5 L aircooled V8,just add turbo.

[veekry9]

single seater t507 bvlv originally designed to test new aluminum V8 engine with OHV prepared personally for uozv Tatra 603

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads...hemi-v8.484366/

A link to some q+a.

[veekry9]

Mid engine alloy hemi pushrod V8.
model 603 2.5L,75X72mm BXS.

A step up is the model 613,4cam,16v 3.5L engine.
85x77mm BXS
model 700 4.4L efi
produced until '9x?

[veekry9]

Well,someone out there in the hinterlands of the E.U. must have a handle on these lightweight V8s.
If not,an Opportunity exists to meet the demand for the unique small 4+8 zylinders.
Other than auto applications,a kitplane aero app may move a few of them.
Simply gather as many pieces that you can and put up an Ebay/Samba for sale sign.
I'm somewhat surprised that a VW/Porsche fan from the Continent hasn't considered a powerplant of such attributes.
A further question regarding the dimensions of the bore spacing and cylinder stud pattern remain unanswered.
Scaling a photo may derive a close number,but only close.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLUGSm6Th-Q


Judging by the positive reaction on virtually every blog and posting for the last decade,a surprising number of wrenchers would like to have such engines.
And to think the Ford V8 of '32 was it's contemporary.
In hindsight now,it's no surprise that the ArDun head for the Fhead Ford used a similar,independent latest big breathing pentroof/crescent design.
An aftermarket to develop hotrod parts for the engine never happened.
Rollertip rockers,rollerlifters,modern valves,all the things you would do to your aircooled VW,Porsche,Corvair,Hirth,Rotax...
I haven't seen anyone other than the factory turbo the engines,so,you could be the first.
Could be fun.

[veekry9]

Tatra 613 4.4L DOHC 16V aircooled
appears to be 6spd transaxle from a front drive vehicle,Getrag?.(edit:11/10/15)All Tatra ,6spdSuitable for 4X4,6X6.
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en...440%26bih%3D712
http://www.tatra603team.cz/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtzpRBuJmPw...gdTROrvzuXCZL1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKwPoKhJh5g...L1Q&index=4
(some Sabbath involved.Heavy metal,for those unfamiliar with the genre)

4-cam valve action,sounds good.note the convenient covers between the cams,to adjust lash quickly.400hp na.


A nice design from the time of Elvis.

a link to the car designer's story.
http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en...440%26bih%3D712
http://ommszem.blog.hu/2007/10/11/fiokba_zart_gran_turismo
a real beauty,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao5OF7EXDcw

A nice one,utility,military application,Will fit nicely into a 914,a 4x4 914!
Yes,a 924/944 early differential,cvs,axles,a custom upright to carry the hub.
A few details and some hotrod tech,and a short stroke turbo screamer to make it all good.
A good deal if you can acquire them.
A quest for a European,or a source of parts for the next custom X-12.
Not only possible,but imperative.

[3d914]

Have you seen these? Both are design built around the 914 unibody. Either would be interesting to refine/update.

Hispano-Aleman




Or the Tapiro: Link with pics

[veekry9]

Frua,driven at speed.
One off,elegant design.

[veekry9]

PX A nice airy glass house.
A 6 under glass
like the wheels now,always did.

[7TPorsh]

PX A nice airy glass house.
A 6 under glass
like the wheels now,always did.

4 bolt

[Dave_Darling]

Weird. The front is definitely five-bolt, the rear looks like four-bolt.

EDIT:
Looking at the pics on the website linked shows they were all five-bolt. So the four-bolt look must be an illusion. Probably the "uneven" part of the bolt pattern (where it does not match with the eight spokes) is out of sight on that rear wheel.

--DD

[7TPorsh]

yep, 5 bolt. % in the center square, neat

[veekry9]

Have you seen these? Both are design built around the 914 unibody. Either would be interesting to refine/update.

Sure,a great idea,rather than purchasing an off the rack auto,make a custom.
California is a goldmine of automotive design/build talent.
Start like we all did,scratching our "Lambo"with a pencil on the back page of notebooks.Mockup scale models and when the results please you,move to full-size mounted on the recipient Fiero chassis.Beat alloy panels into shape over wooden bucks like Bertone or layup into a mold pulled from a buck.
So yeah,a huge effort is required,and at the end you may have something like a Bradley or (hopefully) a Frua 914.I suppose that is why I can appreciate the results
Eberhard Shulz attained with his Imperator 108 in the '70s.A verbatim replica of others work would not suffice,so he designed and built his own.An achievement like that requires more than a passing knowledge of design and manufacture.
It all starts with an idea,so determine what your quest is then blaze a path.

a good example of a nicely integrated design



A perfect example of meticulous,determined construction methods.
wow

http://www.gt40s.com/forum/wings-wheels-ke...0-dreaming.html
Bruce McLaren"woosh bonk...done"

[veekry9]

Post #70560

first look,a 356RSR,love

[veekry9]

As an example of how design intent can go arwry..


YellowHorror

Fat tires-check.
Flares-check
pseudo f40-check

As you observe various auto designs are you able to percieve rust and or dents
from a distance of 100 yds?Sure,so it is entirely possible to detect the shape of
the fenders of a 911rsr.Expedient measures to cover the tires range from this
to the shapely splined flanks of the 914.
The necessity drives the invention.

Post #90543

funny thing,found.
from this angle it looks better.
the addition of discrete features+nasa ducts
(edit:07/09/16)
A relic of the past,it has grown on me.
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Kinda has some F40 details,V8 too.

[veekry9]

[veekry9]

914 CopyCats

Nope,
Ferrari 308GT4
Maserati Bora
Maserati Merak
Fiat X19
BMW M1
DeTomaso Pantera
DeTomaso Mangusta


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Fiero

The idea of a low powered runabout with a mid mounted transverse engine was a demonstration of technology sophistication.



The engineering that went into the stamped steel chasssis produced a rigid crash safe exoskeleton.
The only production mid of America.
Check the prices of that poor car and compare to any other mid.
(edit:05/05/16)
80 mph transverse rollover crash tests passed.



http://www.italdesign.it/en/projects/ford-maya-iies-eng/
http://www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin/fiero/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro
All that's required is a dieman to create repair panels for the chronic rust areas.
Then add lightweight power for a decent mid sportster.
Different crash safety requirements,the reason for the 914's cancellation.

[Sleepin]

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That is AWESOME!

[veekry9]

The more I more I consider the cylinder heads of the 4cam 613,the more I'm inclined to think they may fit quite easily onto a Corvair shortblock.
Gears are turning here.
A flat 6 or 8 from the Carpathian Mountains.


Bolts? Sure, I've got Bolts.


http://ffilms.org/young-frankenstein-1974/

[veekry9]

Found some old links re:flat-8 at PerformanceForums

http://jalopnik.com/5799726/emerson-...kswagen-beetle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXKcpbFF7WI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zto2UDCUyoY


these have be online a few years.

These guys make it look easy.
Want a Flat-8,Make one.
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This is the 8 cylinder type 1 Emerson had built and raced.
went real fast







http://www.wired.com/2011/05/emerson-fitti...gine-vw-beetle/

[veekry9]

Add 3" to the center of the car, like this: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

wow ..
split down the middle
on a boxster