PIX, Pix Of Enlightenment Options

[veekry9]

Have you seen these? Both are design built around the 914 unibody. Either would be interesting to refine/update.

Sure,a great idea,rather than purchasing an off the rack auto,make a custom.
California is a goldmine of automotive design/build talent.
Start like we all did,scratching our "Lambo"with a pencil on the back page of notebooks.Mockup scale models and when the results please you,move to full-size mounted on the recipient Fiero chassis.Beat alloy panels into shape over wooden bucks like Bertone or layup into a mold pulled from a buck.
So yeah,a huge effort is required,and at the end you may have something like a Bradley or (hopefully) a Frua 914.I suppose that is why I can appreciate the results
Eberhard Shulz attained with his Imperator 108 in the '70s.A verbatim replica of others work would not suffice,so he designed and built his own.An achievement like that requires more than a passing knowledge of design and manufacture.
It all starts with an idea,so determine what your quest is then blaze a path.

a good example of a nicely integrated design



A perfect example of meticulous,determined construction methods.
wow

http://www.gt40s.com/forum/wings-wheels-ke...0-dreaming.html
Bruce McLaren"woosh bonk...done"

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first look,a 356RSR,love

[veekry9]

As an example of how design intent can go arwry..


YellowHorror

Fat tires-check.
Flares-check
pseudo f40-check

As you observe various auto designs are you able to percieve rust and or dents
from a distance of 100 yds?Sure,so it is entirely possible to detect the shape of
the fenders of a 911rsr.Expedient measures to cover the tires range from this
to the shapely splined flanks of the 914.
The necessity drives the invention.

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funny thing,found.
from this angle it looks better.
the addition of discrete features+nasa ducts
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A relic of the past,it has grown on me.
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Kinda has some F40 details,V8 too.

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[veekry9]

914 CopyCats

Nope,
Ferrari 308GT4
Maserati Bora
Maserati Merak
Fiat X19
BMW M1
DeTomaso Pantera
DeTomaso Mangusta


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Fiero

The idea of a low powered runabout with a mid mounted transverse engine was a demonstration of technology sophistication.



The engineering that went into the stamped steel chasssis produced a rigid crash safe exoskeleton.
The only production mid of America.
Check the prices of that poor car and compare to any other mid.
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80 mph transverse rollover crash tests passed.



http://www.italdesign.it/en/projects/ford-maya-iies-eng/
http://www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin/fiero/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro
All that's required is a dieman to create repair panels for the chronic rust areas.
Then add lightweight power for a decent mid sportster.
Different crash safety requirements,the reason for the 914's cancellation.

[Sleepin]

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That is AWESOME!

[veekry9]

The more I more I consider the cylinder heads of the 4cam 613,the more I'm inclined to think they may fit quite easily onto a Corvair shortblock.
Gears are turning here.
A flat 6 or 8 from the Carpathian Mountains.


Bolts? Sure, I've got Bolts.


http://ffilms.org/young-frankenstein-1974/

[veekry9]

Found some old links re:flat-8 at PerformanceForums

http://jalopnik.com/5799726/emerson-...kswagen-beetle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXKcpbFF7WI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zto2UDCUyoY


these have be online a few years.

These guys make it look easy.
Want a Flat-8,Make one.
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This is the 8 cylinder type 1 Emerson had built and raced.
went real fast







http://www.wired.com/2011/05/emerson-fitti...gine-vw-beetle/

[veekry9]

Add 3" to the center of the car, like this: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

wow ..
split down the middle
on a boxster

[veekry9]

Looks like the door gaps on my first tub... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Yup..
Real big air scoops



more power,more air,more drag,more power...

[veekry9]

Ghia by Karmann
Liked them back then,still do.



Big Sis,early 60s,had that new VW aroma.



updated headlamps
nerf bars

(edit:12/16/15)
http://www.oldbug.com/finch.htm
A more accurate report of this gorgeous Ghia.

[veekry9]

Always thought this was interesting....

an attempt at sloping the headlamps to approximate the windscreen.
the chrome rings are retained
conformal

[veekry9]

Side view with cam tower exposed showing lifter-block registers and seats.
A custom barrel to carry a roller lifter can be fabricated to seat in the existing bore.

(Edit:10/21/14)
The stud spacing appears to be wide enough to accommodate an 90mm bore cylinder.
Visible cylinder bore is 75mm,so perhaps as much as 90mm(+15mm)
Anyone out there have real specifications of the head stud spacing?
(as resolved from drawing,102mm bcd)

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...22522&st=98

edit:an 80mm(+8mm) stroke would yield 4.07 L,an increase of 1.5L .

Aircooled V8 hemispherical head 16 V pushrod alloy engine.
What's not to like?The crank is likely forged as the diesel manufacturing requires them.
All around a decent small V8 with great potential,just needs some modern tech applied to them.
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Have a look at these few vids.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...gine&page=1
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http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/148...a-sport-v8-pics
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The numbers here are very close,so,a maximum bore diameter of ~90mm.
The cast iron lifter bore bodies are seen attached to the cam tower.Custom versions made to carry roller lifters would fit nicely.
At the bottom,one of the oil coolers is seated on it's seal flanges,the temperature sender at the top of the stud.
The distributor barrel is at the right.
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[veekry9]

Isdera Erator GTE,Eberhard Shulz.
I even like his first off.
There was a yewtube of it being thrashed through the black forest,driver's view.(now removed)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyYgYho43mQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khxgb2EP5ac


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2AMLaTDXAo


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https://www.google.ca/search?q=Isdera+Erato...QkJBa0Q_AUIBigB
https://www.google.ca/search?q=isdera+imper...UoeAFAQ_AUIBigB
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[veekry9]

hmmm Fiero not,a Ford mockup.

http://www.italdesign.it/en/projects/ford-maya-iies-eng/
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[veekry9]

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000091-53.html

Looking for a new dash?
Some ideas from the custom Fiero world
Immaculate work by Amida
10/10

[veekry9]

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That is AWESOME!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZZXKIDqv2c



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v39Z8oFpbbE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClRqT2uoXTo...cuI_ZXOUvqXEFKA

the stuffing of an aircooled v8 into a light sports car..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3zW9uaiVNk

[veekry9]

Discovery!

The manufacture of an aircooled V8 integral with transmission and final drive.
The Tatra 613 V8 and
The Tatra 700 V8.







compact design places crankshaft above axle.

[veekry9]

85mm bore iron cylinders


77mm stroke crank


driveshaft,pinion and crown


cam carriers,top and bottom


hemi heads

it all seems familiar

[veekry9]

in fact the axle passes below the crankshaft middle main bearing journal perhaps as little as 25-30mm.




With the sump pan removed,you can see the main bearing cap that carries the axle.
Note chain driven oilpump and filter mount,starter to the right.Aluminum bearing caps are cross-bolted,the block rails extended far below the crank CL,perhaps suitable to carry structural loads.
Mounting the block in front of 901 TX seems possible although the uneeded portions of the casting create a 5-7 kg weight penalty,easily removed.



bare Y-block,differential cast integrally.Front(Rear) fan casting mounts on right,cam drive.


the stash at the wreckers,found at this link:
Obviously unaware of the huge demand for these parts.

http://www.lhotkanet.cz/mirror/aek4470.finalnet.cz/
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A unique design modification,to allow the use of the engine in a mid configuration.
The original driveshaft is used to drive a cv joint where the differential formerly was.
A new casting is made to carry the diff,raised from the factory position,dropping the CG,and pan to ride height.
The engine is run with a crank and cam position trigger,for coil on twin plug ignition,no dizzy.
A conversion to chain drive for the cams,and vvt takes less room at the drive end of the block.
A hyvo chain to drive a shaft going forward to a front diff,can make for a awd car.
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http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/148...a-sport-v8-pics
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