PIX, Pix Of Enlightenment Options

[veekry9]

Found some old links re:flat-8 at PerformanceForums

http://jalopnik.com/5799726/emerson-...kswagen-beetle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXKcpbFF7WI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zto2UDCUyoY


these have be online a few years.

These guys make it look easy.
Want a Flat-8,Make one.
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This is the 8 cylinder type 1 Emerson had built and raced.
went real fast







http://www.wired.com/2011/05/emerson-fitti...gine-vw-beetle/

[veekry9]

Add 3" to the center of the car, like this: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

wow ..
split down the middle
on a boxster

[veekry9]

Looks like the door gaps on my first tub... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Yup..
Real big air scoops



more power,more air,more drag,more power...

[veekry9]

Ghia by Karmann
Liked them back then,still do.



Big Sis,early 60s,had that new VW aroma.



updated headlamps
nerf bars

(edit:12/16/15)
http://www.oldbug.com/finch.htm
A more accurate report of this gorgeous Ghia.

[veekry9]

Always thought this was interesting....

an attempt at sloping the headlamps to approximate the windscreen.
the chrome rings are retained
conformal

[veekry9]

Side view with cam tower exposed showing lifter-block registers and seats.
A custom barrel to carry a roller lifter can be fabricated to seat in the existing bore.

(Edit:10/21/14)
The stud spacing appears to be wide enough to accommodate an 90mm bore cylinder.
Visible cylinder bore is 75mm,so perhaps as much as 90mm(+15mm)
Anyone out there have real specifications of the head stud spacing?
(as resolved from drawing,102mm bcd)

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...22522&st=98

edit:an 80mm(+8mm) stroke would yield 4.07 L,an increase of 1.5L .

Aircooled V8 hemispherical head 16 V pushrod alloy engine.
What's not to like?The crank is likely forged as the diesel manufacturing requires them.
All around a decent small V8 with great potential,just needs some modern tech applied to them.
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Have a look at these few vids.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...gine&page=1
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(edit:08/06/16):


http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/148...a-sport-v8-pics
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The numbers here are very close,so,a maximum bore diameter of ~90mm.
The cast iron lifter bore bodies are seen attached to the cam tower.Custom versions made to carry roller lifters would fit nicely.
At the bottom,one of the oil coolers is seated on it's seal flanges,the temperature sender at the top of the stud.
The distributor barrel is at the right.
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[veekry9]

Isdera Erator GTE,Eberhard Shulz.
I even like his first off.
There was a yewtube of it being thrashed through the black forest,driver's view.(now removed)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyYgYho43mQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khxgb2EP5ac


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2AMLaTDXAo


(edit:07/08/16)
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Isdera+Erato...QkJBa0Q_AUIBigB
https://www.google.ca/search?q=isdera+imper...UoeAFAQ_AUIBigB
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(Edit:08/14/16):

[veekry9]

hmmm Fiero not,a Ford mockup.

http://www.italdesign.it/en/projects/ford-maya-iies-eng/
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[veekry9]

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000091-53.html

Looking for a new dash?
Some ideas from the custom Fiero world
Immaculate work by Amida
10/10

[veekry9]

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That is AWESOME!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZZXKIDqv2c



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v39Z8oFpbbE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClRqT2uoXTo...cuI_ZXOUvqXEFKA

the stuffing of an aircooled v8 into a light sports car..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3zW9uaiVNk

[veekry9]

Discovery!

The manufacture of an aircooled V8 integral with transmission and final drive.
The Tatra 613 V8 and
The Tatra 700 V8.







compact design places crankshaft above axle.

[veekry9]

85mm bore iron cylinders


77mm stroke crank


driveshaft,pinion and crown


cam carriers,top and bottom


hemi heads

it all seems familiar

[veekry9]

in fact the axle passes below the crankshaft middle main bearing journal perhaps as little as 25-30mm.




With the sump pan removed,you can see the main bearing cap that carries the axle.
Note chain driven oilpump and filter mount,starter to the right.Aluminum bearing caps are cross-bolted,the block rails extended far below the crank CL,perhaps suitable to carry structural loads.
Mounting the block in front of 901 TX seems possible although the uneeded portions of the casting create a 5-7 kg weight penalty,easily removed.



bare Y-block,differential cast integrally.Front(Rear) fan casting mounts on right,cam drive.


the stash at the wreckers,found at this link:
Obviously unaware of the huge demand for these parts.

http://www.lhotkanet.cz/mirror/aek4470.finalnet.cz/
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A unique design modification,to allow the use of the engine in a mid configuration.
The original driveshaft is used to drive a cv joint where the differential formerly was.
A new casting is made to carry the diff,raised from the factory position,dropping the CG,and pan to ride height.
The engine is run with a crank and cam position trigger,for coil on twin plug ignition,no dizzy.
A conversion to chain drive for the cams,and vvt takes less room at the drive end of the block.
A hyvo chain to drive a shaft going forward to a front diff,can make for a awd car.
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http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/148...a-sport-v8-pics
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[Mike Bellis]

Since the axle is too far forward for a 914, you should... Weld the diff like a spool, mount the engine transversly, install a AWD drivetrain and make the first air cooled V8 AWD 914. The transmission diff will act as the transfer case.

[veekry9]

The original intent of the designer was to package an entire powerplant and drivetrain into a light compact discrete component.A twin engine 4x4 for example would only require installing an engine package as there are no auxilary peripherals needed,being aircooled.An engine over the axle is a design suitable for front drive and or rear drive and is suitable for adaptation to other applications.Mounting the engine in place of a 914's 4 cylinder,you gain displacement and a few pounds that theoretically at least,is easily shed.I can find no faults in the design and a few unique solutions that simplify the manufacture and maintenance of it.The engine has no inherent problems with pulling studs out of the block or bearing failures,as it's a robust ribbed casting.



here's an example with a turbo mounted,likely with stock components internally.

This is the Tatra-700-EFI:

[veekry9]

This is really cute,but somehow the taillights and bumper look too modern for the bug roofline.Perhaps a little Ghia,?

Stuffing an early '63 914 with a 2.5 to 4.4 Litre V8 of an aircooled design has to be OK.
Turns out there may be as few as 10 Tatra V8 engines in North America.
There may be a HotRodder in the EU who may wish to give it a go.
The 4-cam 613 could run with the heads swapped for a hot-V.
Convenient for turbocharging and intercooling plumbing.

[veekry9]

Outrigger TwinTurbo
928 S4
Anyone here recognize the trans-axle?(edit 05/03/15:956/962)

[veekry9]

Like this Outlaw POLO 356,the '63 914 has a rounded,curved house.
If the hips pinch in at the tail,and the roof-line blends into the vertical face below the trunk-line,a nice Ghia like curvature will result.Voluptuous.
Add a little sponson and the two lamp treatment.
Very 60's retro.

[veekry9]

Very nice Silver



A 944 windscreen+roof+hatch+spoiler
Only for those with skills in metalshaping.

[veekry9]

+10in (254mm) Wider overall
+4 in (100mm) Wheelbase