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veekry9 |
Sep 29 2014, 09:25 AM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
in fact the axle passes below the crankshaft middle main bearing journal perhaps as little as 25-30mm. With the sump pan removed,you can see the main bearing cap that carries the axle. Note chain driven oilpump and filter mount,starter to the right.Aluminum bearing caps are cross-bolted,the block rails extended far below the crank CL,perhaps suitable to carry structural loads. Mounting the block in front of 901 TX seems possible although the uneeded portions of the casting create a 5-7 kg weight penalty,easily removed. bare Y-block,differential cast integrally.Front(Rear) fan casting mounts on right,cam drive. the stash at the wreckers,found at this link: Obviously unaware of the huge demand for these parts. http://www.lhotkanet.cz/mirror/aek4470.finalnet.cz/ / (edit:07/31/16): A unique design modification,to allow the use of the engine in a mid configuration. The original driveshaft is used to drive a cv joint where the differential formerly was. A new casting is made to carry the diff,raised from the factory position,dropping the CG,and pan to ride height. The engine is run with a crank and cam position trigger,for coil on twin plug ignition,no dizzy. A conversion to chain drive for the cams,and vvt takes less room at the drive end of the block. A hyvo chain to drive a shaft going forward to a front diff,can make for a awd car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) http://retrorides.proboards.com/thread/148...a-sport-v8-pics / |
Mike Bellis |
Sep 29 2014, 09:19 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Since the axle is too far forward for a 914, you should... Weld the diff like a spool, mount the engine transversly, install a AWD drivetrain and make the first air cooled V8 AWD 914. The transmission diff will act as the transfer case.
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veekry9 |
Sep 30 2014, 12:11 AM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
The original intent of the designer was to package an entire powerplant and drivetrain into a light compact discrete component.A twin engine 4x4 for example would only require installing an engine package as there are no auxilary peripherals needed,being aircooled.An engine over the axle is a design suitable for front drive and or rear drive and is suitable for adaptation to other applications.Mounting the engine in place of a 914's 4 cylinder,you gain displacement and a few pounds that theoretically at least,is easily shed.I can find no faults in the design and a few unique solutions that simplify the manufacture and maintenance of it.The engine has no inherent problems with pulling studs out of the block or bearing failures,as it's a robust ribbed casting.
here's an example with a turbo mounted,likely with stock components internally. This is the Tatra-700-EFI: |
veekry9 |
Oct 5 2014, 04:24 PM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
This is really cute,but somehow the taillights and bumper look too modern for the bug roofline.Perhaps a little Ghia,? Stuffing an early '63 914 with a 2.5 to 4.4 Litre V8 of an aircooled design has to be OK. Turns out there may be as few as 10 Tatra V8 engines in North America. There may be a HotRodder in the EU who may wish to give it a go. The 4-cam 613 could run with the heads swapped for a hot-V. Convenient for turbocharging and intercooling plumbing. |
veekry9 |
Oct 5 2014, 07:35 PM
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veekry9 |
Oct 5 2014, 08:12 PM
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Like this Outlaw POLO 356,the '63 914 has a rounded,curved house. If the hips pinch in at the tail,and the roof-line blends into the vertical face below the trunk-line,a nice Ghia like curvature will result.Voluptuous. Add a little sponson and the two lamp treatment. Very 60's retro. |
veekry9 |
Oct 19 2014, 12:49 AM
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veekry9 |
Oct 19 2014, 08:10 AM
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veekry9 |
Oct 20 2014, 03:01 PM
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veekry9 |
Oct 20 2014, 04:56 PM
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Liquid cooled? Requires a rad in front. A very sophisticated look also from the 924/944/968 product lines. Well done.I even like the color. Raised brand logo on rocker is a nice custom touch. edit:Nov 15/14 found this> http://members.rennlist.com/bluethunder/coverpag.htm |
veekry9 |
Oct 20 2014, 08:15 PM
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Chrome Yellow bright pearl.Now with accent stripe in Lime. WB stretch,18" ATS + Michelin RR sticky.A nice flat TurboSix to motivate. Rusty 914 + Honda crx roof,hammered into a shape that looks '90s. The Honda roof a tribute to the iconic 911 curve at a fraction of the cost. Another look for the CRX roofline transmogrification. Honda did a nice rendition of the tapered b-glass. Fits on a Fiero too,transforming the early windscreen slope to a more modern look,911-ish. I recall Chuck Beck(edit:Randy) did a 914 > GT1 custom roof that I liked.Without all the accoutrements of wings n poorly shaped flares,running boards and air dams it looks ok.Quite reserved but sporty enough to turn heads even with standard power.Really brings the 914 shape into the '90s. |
veekry9 |
Oct 20 2014, 09:30 PM
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r_towle |
Oct 20 2014, 09:31 PM
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You are bouncing around a lot.
What was that v8 aircooled motor? What years, what countries was it produced? |
Dave_Darling |
Oct 20 2014, 09:47 PM
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The Tatra aircooled V8 was built starting in the mid-30s. It was in several models, and went up into late 90s. There may have been diesel truck motors that went later than that.
Early: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_77 Late: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_700 --DD |
veekry9 |
Oct 20 2014, 10:35 PM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
It would be complicated to import the Tatra V8,whether the early SOHC, pushrod or the later quadcam.
There is some unrealized potential in these sturdy alloy engines,400hp has been bandied about as the number. The block casting of the 613/700 has that unique integral differential housing,placing the crank 1-1.5 in above the axle. A very nice design in every way,unappreciated in markets in which it never appeared. The engine sitting atop the axle in a 914 would,I'm sure,ruin any handling features of the car. Placing it mid however,you would have a light powerful aircooled V8 with the added bonus of an all Teutonic 914. The small displacement and stroke makes possible the use of a flat crank and cams plus the heads can be turned for a hot vee exhaust layout. After all,an aircooled V8 design would enhance the awesome factor of any 914 build. The difficult part is having a few shipped to your garage at a reasonable cost or any price,just to begin work. The sound of a 308 GT4 emanating from a 914 would be worth it all,the work being large in dimension. Be the first on the pit row with a twin turbo version to catch the latemodel of your choice. (edit:07/06/16) Zingback to the start of the Tatra dialog. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...22522&st=91 / |
veekry9 |
Oct 22 2014, 01:26 PM
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veekry9 |
Oct 22 2014, 01:32 PM
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veekry9 |
Oct 23 2014, 11:16 AM
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ClayPerrine |
Oct 23 2014, 11:20 AM
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I have absolutely 0 skills at photoshop, but maybe somebody would like to photoshop a 1973 Boxster for us? Take a 73 914, and graft the front end of a 73 911 targa onto it.
I want to build one in real life, and put a Boxster emblem on the back. |
veekry9 |
Oct 23 2014, 12:31 PM
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More like an impressionist painting in oil than anything else.
Incredible that it's stock below the beltline. Looks very modern,telling how far ahead the design of the 914 was in '67. |
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