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post Jul 22 2016, 11:07 AM
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Congrats you are almost to 1964 Ferrari 250 LM by Scaglietti... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Jul 22 2016, 11:47 AM
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Well,I did purchase a 1:18 diecast model of the 250LM as a gift,some half dozen yrs ago.
But no,the intent was to trial fit the 914 with the sloped LeMans windsceen,as it has a more rounded profile.
*The 250 LM glass by the way,is only available to the owners of the original cars,factory,I believe.And pricey.*
(edit:07/23/16)Totally wrong on that,it is then,possible to meld a 250's windscreen onto a 914's chassis. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)
Gee,thanks,[sixnotfour],I would never have considered the proposal.*A wider,taller windshield,allowing more shoulder room.*
(edit:07/27/16):Well,after some measurements,it is the 904's windscreen that is taller,the 250's is wider and more sloped.
http://www.pilkington.com/en-gb/uk/automot...-models/ferrari

But,the Lancia Stratos windscreen is a piece that is not too dear.
Way rad.
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It is apparent what they were trying to achieve,aero like.
Smooth.
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post Jul 22 2016, 11:54 AM
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post Jul 22 2016, 11:55 AM
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post Jul 22 2016, 12:10 PM
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"First shown at Geneva in 1965, the 250 LM ‘Stradale’ then left for the USA where it remained until now. It is equipped with electric windows and leather seats."
http://www.velocetoday.com/villa-deste-2013/

Man,I adore the perspex rear window,with the formed vents,a detail later done,also by Pininfarina,with the 288 GTO.
A Cool 17M+.
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250LM Stradale 6025 at MtDiablo,CA.
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post Jul 22 2016, 01:23 PM
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A raised roofline,for the taller driver,with helmet.
The seats,dropped 40mm,closer to the floor pan,the firewall sloped,the footbox lengthened.
Note that the wheelwells have been raised,the front to the same height as the frunklid.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...22522&st=50
That glass would be a custom formed piece,fitting the factory upper frame,the lower seat modified for a similar radius as the 904's.
A form(mold) would have to be made for the short run,tempered,laminated safety glass.
Not cheep tho.
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post Jul 22 2016, 01:29 PM
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Reminds me of this... (pic from WCR 2011)

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post Jul 22 2016, 02:02 PM
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Always loved the 250LM, viewed it as a Ferrari 914 (granted it was pre 914)
Believe it or not there was a time not-so-long ago when they weren't insanely priced...kind of like the 904 etc. Forget about it now.
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post Jul 22 2016, 02:53 PM
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Well,a jackpot winner,with 300M after taxes might consider such a bauble.
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A trip to the moon,or Mars...

So,a derelict 914 chassis,some sweat equity and various Porsche organs,shake until competitive.
Driving about to make rescues of the numbers,as Unobtanium does with the 356.
A large 'Field of Dreams'steadily decaying as we watch.
Once kissed by the 914 pixie,hard to avert one's affection,and coinage.
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post Jul 22 2016, 03:40 PM
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So if you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) enough and look just right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ...you might see some resemblance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) or not (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) actually mines the 13yr newer model (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)


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post Jul 22 2016, 04:02 PM
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The curve,modified,soon to be tweaked,again.
Testing..
In the light metallic blue they look so good in,some sky colour.
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250LM Stradale,V12 Longitudinal.
You might have something there,a germ of the ideas they had in the late 50's.
Later,Lamborghini turned things around with the Miura and Countach.
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post Jul 22 2016, 04:06 PM
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Some mods,and a scraper,with 916 style diverters.
Hmmm..what will I do next?A stretch and a raising of the rear trunkline.
To make room.
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post Jul 23 2016, 09:05 AM
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just buy a 904 body and ..... there was a show once called "chop cut rebuild"
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post Jul 23 2016, 11:03 AM
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(edit:07/23/16)
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...hop+cut+rebuild
I looked at a few episodes,when possible,liked the show and the work done.

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Purchase a windscreen from Pilkington.
http://www.pilkington.com/en-gb/uk/automot...-models/porsche
Then,create the surround and underlying cage structure.
The male plug for the molds,drawn in cad,machined in cam,polished to symmetry.
Later,if one wished,a sheetmetal skin could be pounded and wheeled out,because aluminum is light too.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=247031&hl=
A 904 replica or homage is a worthy endeavor,if done well.((Edit:08/12/16):The 904's windscreen looks pure sex on the 914's lower body,so well raked)
A drawing of a trial fit has inspired a 250LM comparision,and although flattering,the windscreen is the only similarity,and differently sized.
Neato,the smaller,narrower,904's glass and roofline makes the sectioned,stretched 914 bodyshell slicker.
A lot of work,the drawings the plan,and only the seed,or beginning,of a total custom.
With a pumped up P6 or H6,the performance would satisfy,briefly.
Go ahead,resurrect a 914 near you,instructions can be found here on the World.
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Oct 22 2013, 09:34 PM) *

How the heck do you fit that thing in a 914????
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Ferrari fit 'that thing'(the Columbo 3.3L V12),into a 250LM,with some well planned,(drawn),forethought.
The 250LM has a WB 50mm(2") shorter than the 914,so,it is a tight squeeze.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_250
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_Colombo_engine
https://www.google.ca/search?q=ferrari+V12+...DmKnYOo9fAUM%3A
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post Jul 23 2016, 03:43 PM
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Well,I raised the rear trunkline,widened the fender at the rear wheel,
and generated a creaseline that fades in as it goes forward,from the top of the fender,fading out toward the rear of the front wheel opening lip.
The top of the front fender has been given a more pronounced curvature that fades into the top of the doorskin,a subtle hint of TR,Pininfarina.
Similar to what I did to the metallic blue stretch.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...2522&st=171
Soon to be scooped,a huge character change,from mild to wild.
Still maintaining the 914 targa curve,modded.
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post Jul 23 2016, 03:46 PM
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You have mad photochop skills. But I'm with the previous thoughts: Too much sail swoop. A couple of the real pics posted look better. Just a $.01, not critical. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jul 23 2016, 04:30 PM
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Gimp.
Very much a newbie with the software,functions easily enough for my needs,quick.
What's great is the programmable functions,for custom effects.
Used as a front end for cadcam and blender,versatile.
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What is the 'swoop'you speak of? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Is what you are describing,actually a 'curve'? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Here are some:enjoy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curve
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome...al+shipbuilding
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spline_interpolation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-uniform_rational_B-spline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9zier_curve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parabola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicycloid
https://www.google.ca/search?q=triangular+t...QssDvYQ_AUICCgB
https://www.google.ca/search?q=nurb+surface...SyDAeUQ_AUIBigB

Machined,by spline(nurb) interpolation,molds,dies,and various other light and heavy metals,and composites.
Decades of the work,never heard anyone describe a 'swoop',tho I have seen a Red Tail Hawk swoop for a mole.
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post Jul 23 2016, 07:13 PM
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Wilder,needs a wing and a scraper.
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post Jul 25 2016, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(veekry9 @ Apr 15 2014, 10:02 AM) *

OK.here's the plan..
Get 2 sets of cases,and weld them together after machining the front and rear off each respective set.
Front 2 and rear 2.Makes a long case to carry 8 cylinders.
Look,if the guy in Aus can weld magnesium cases,it would have to be easier to do the same to 356 T6 alloy cases.
Marginally easier admittedly,but possible to achieve the exalted F-8.
Fun with TIG,in an oven,inert gas flushed...


Although not as ultra cool, you needn't physically join the engines. I grew up in Seattle where they imported a lot of foreign. An informal drag strip was down by Shilshole Bay. I would swear there were stories about a VW beetle with twin engines. One mounted in the passenger compartment. Getting the power of the second engine to the ground might be tricky with a 914.
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QUOTE(worn @ Jul 25 2016, 06:48 AM) *

QUOTE(veekry9 @ Apr 15 2014, 10:02 AM) *

OK.here's the plan..
Get 2 sets of cases,and weld them together after machining the front and rear off each respective set.
Front 2 and rear 2.Makes a long case to carry 8 cylinders.
Look,if the guy in Aus can weld magnesium cases,it would have to be easier to do the same to 356 T6 alloy cases.
Marginally easier admittedly,but possible to achieve the exalted F-8.
Fun with TIG,in an oven,inert gas flushed...


Although not as ultra cool, you needn't physically join the engines. I grew up in Seattle where they imported a lot of foreign. An informal drag strip was down by Shilshole Bay. I would swear there were stories about a VW beetle with twin engines. One mounted in the passenger compartment. Getting the power of the second engine to the ground might be tricky with a 914.


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