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> Muellers Honda V6 914 project, Put 70 miles on this engine swap, now to drop broken motor
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post Jul 10 2018, 11:49 PM
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I am using one of these cheap controllers for the intercooler fan. Seems to be working fine and I dont see why it cant work for something bigger like a radiator with an appropriate relay setup.

https://www.amazon.com/outstanding-Temperat...+controller+12v

If I were to do it again I think maybe I would go with this one, as I cant find the one that had my nice black lexan overlay with buttons.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008KVGWT4/ref=ss...customerReviews

My radiator fan controller, electric pump and electric pump controller were all Davies Craig which was completely awesome.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Davies-Craig-150L-...JAAAOSwjUxbLFVK
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post Jul 11 2018, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jul 10 2018, 10:49 PM) *

I am using one of these cheap controllers for the intercooler fan. Seems to be working fine and I dont see why it cant work for something bigger like a radiator with an appropriate relay setup.

https://www.amazon.com/outstanding-Temperat...+controller+12v

If I were to do it again I think maybe I would go with this one, as I cant find the one that had my nice black lexan overlay with buttons.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008KVGWT4/ref=ss...customerReviews

My radiator fan controller, electric pump and electric pump controller were all Davies Craig which was completely awesome.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Davies-Craig-150L-...JAAAOSwjUxbLFVK



I just ordered the cheaper unit, can replace the 20A relay with higher amp solid state relay I have already that is similar to the units Mike B is running.
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post Jul 11 2018, 08:59 AM
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post Jul 11 2018, 10:02 AM
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I knew we'd get him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Mike didn't you stuff a VR6 into a green 914 a long time ago? My memory stinks but think you aborted the mission to focus on a Volvo 200 series maybe?
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post Jul 11 2018, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(Chris H. @ Jul 11 2018, 09:02 AM) *

I knew we'd get him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . Mike didn't you stuff a VR6 into a green 914 a long time ago? My memory stinks but think you aborted the mission to focus on a Volvo 200 series maybe?



I got the VR6 installed in the white 914 that had the cage in it, I want to say California was changing the smog requirements again so I bailed on it thinking it'll never pass smog. The guy I sold that car to still has it....just sitting around collecting dust.

The motor went into a sand rail from what I understand.
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post Jul 11 2018, 07:11 PM
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Factory water pump is all that Harry ran and he was told it was good enough for the sand rail guys.

Factory ECU, uses a MAP sensor in the manifold. Should be very reliable and depending on serial number of unit, can be data logged and tweaked with a Hondata $300 program/hardware.

For the fans I have an older SPAL pwm controller that I got dirt cheap due to a bad assembly procedure at the factory. They soldered a few capacitors too far off the board and the leads would break due to vibration. Easy fix.

or just going old school with a temp sensor and simple relays.

Sand rail guys aren't pushing water 16' in a loop. Their rads are mounted closer to the engine. My Audi pump was not up to the task. I don't have a fancy controller for my pump like Andyrew but I don't need it. Both of our cars run cool.

My fan controller is just a dual relay with a thermistor on the radiator. On temp is adjustible on a mini potentiometer for each relay. Simple and effective.

I hit up a junk yard for the Toyota plugs for the fan harness.
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post Jul 12 2018, 12:15 AM
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Radiator came in today.

More importantly is that I got the 914 moved into the garage. Took all day to move and organize all that crap.

Removed axles and shifter tonight, hope to drop motor/transmission in the morning.

A few before pics of garage.

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post Jul 12 2018, 06:28 AM
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Impressive looking radiator and fan set-up. Looks like you will need plenty of exhaust air outlet area from the front trunk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Jul 12 2018, 06:50 AM
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post Jul 12 2018, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Jul 11 2018, 06:11 PM) *

Sand rail guys aren't pushing water 16' in a loop. Their rads are mounted closer to the engine. My Audi pump was not up to the task. I don't have a fancy controller for my pump like Andyrew but I don't need it. Both of our cars run cool.

My fan controller is just a dual relay with a thermistor on the radiator. On temp is adjustible on a mini potentiometer for each relay. Simple and effective.

I hit up a junk yard for the Toyota plugs for the fan harness.

My Nissan pumped just fine. Ran the fans off the ECU and it kept itself cool. The hoses will cool 5-10F just being in the airflow under the car, so adjust the controller accordingly.
The fan terminals are a common size, I just bought crimp connectors for mine.
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post Jul 12 2018, 04:37 PM
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Impressive looking radiator and fan set-up. Looks like you will need plenty of exhaust air outlet area from the front trunk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Impressive moving stuff to make it work. That is back breaking challenging stuff, cause everything needs to find a home. Well done!
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post Jul 12 2018, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jul 12 2018, 01:15 AM) *

Radiator came in today.

More importantly is that I got the 914 moved into the garage. Took all day to move and organize all that crap.

Removed axles and shifter tonight, hope to drop motor/transmission in the morning.

A few before pics of garage.



Reminds me of our garage. 10lbs of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) in a 5lb bag. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 12 2018, 06:20 PM
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A huge shout out to Cali914 (Harry)

Not only did he deliver the V6 to my home, he stuck around for hours helping me install it (I think he did more work than I did)


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post Jul 12 2018, 06:40 PM
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post Jul 13 2018, 07:15 AM
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Wow that's great Mike. Looks like it fits pretty well. Did you get axles with it? Just curious if you are running stock CVs.
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post Jul 13 2018, 10:51 AM
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I know what would happen if I ran stock CVs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

In reality since he is running the 901 he should play nice in first gear and have no real trouble.

Now with the torque he should be able to launch in 2nd gear the majority of the time and well that being done who knows.

My new attitude thanks to Mark is a running 914 and driving 914 is better than any 914 on jack stands, rotisserie or other form of none operation.

Now if only I applied that truth, soon, very soon......

Mike glad to see it coming along so quickly for you, If I was a bit closer I would be there with trans on my chest helping you get this thing together. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Jul 13 2018, 02:13 PM
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Awesome stuff Mike. I had no idea you were going this route. Wow!
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post Jul 13 2018, 02:16 PM
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Awesome stuff Mike. I had no idea you were going this route. Wow!


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) But glad you're working on the car. Gonna be great.
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post Jul 14 2018, 04:41 PM
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WHEN ONE GOES TO THE "DARK SIDE", HE REALLY GOES ALL OUT. Great looking project that is a lot further along than I realized. Conversion looks great and very well done. Results of a frustrated "Garage Engineere".
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post Jul 15 2018, 03:34 PM
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Busted out the heat gun today, didn't have enough time get real dirty so this little project was perfect for the short time slot.

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