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> Muellers Honda V6 914 project, Put 70 miles on this engine swap, now to drop broken motor
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post Aug 19 2018, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(rupert14 @ Aug 19 2018, 03:05 PM) *

That's a great idea! I will be running AC as well. Here is what I am starting with.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=331539

I needed a good builder car so I picked that up from Mike here on the forum. I have had Don in Phoenix do several engine/transaxle builds for my race cars including my Class 5 unlimited car. He is building me a Honda 3.5 and Mendeola for 12k, which is less than I can buy a 6cly Porsche motor for. His shop will also be doing the install. They put these 3.5 motors in VW busses monthly. He is an amazing builder and quite affordable compared to the CA prices.

www.donsbusbox.com is his website.

I am still debating whether or not to use the Renegade radiator system or Fab my own. I will be running Porsche 930 CVS on the mendeola and need something 28 spline on the outside. Mike has given me a bunch of great ideas and I'll be calling Patrick Motorsports to inquire about reinforced trailing arm mounts and trailing arms as well as upgraded outer CVS. I steel widebody kit is also on the list. I bought the complete classic auto air kit for a 74 914 and that will be going in with the Honda compressor as well. It's a pretty long list but we're moving on it fast so hopefully the build doesn't take too long. You are thread is giving me lots of great ideas. Keep it up. Know anyone that has driven one of these swaps before? Don can slap a low boost turbo on there making it a clean 400 hp but I really don't think I will need it. I am hoping to keep the car light which is why I did not make the jump to a LS motor.

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My engine came out of another 914 that did the conversion, I test drove it a few months earlier and was half-joking about wanting to buy the motor and parts and he said yes! Car was a blast, 1900 pounds, no window glass, fiberglass decklids and bumpers and stripped out wherever he could remove weight. (he kept the radiator setup since he is going with a turbo Ecotech, he used to have a V8 in there and is running the Renegade setup now)

There is another V6 Honda swapped 914 back East, super clean install on a 20K mile car! He flipped the manifold and welded the TB to the side.

Thread here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=272084&hl=


Nice bug, I saw one very similar at a VW show in Concord last year, I think he was from Nevada.
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post Aug 20 2018, 05:49 AM
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Great going Mike. That Honda purrs like a kitten! Man, what progress.
Fantastic.
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post Aug 20 2018, 03:40 PM
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There is another V6 Honda swapped 914 back East, super clean install on a 20K mile car! He flipped the manifold and welded the TB to the side.

Thread here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=272084&hl=


Nice bug, I saw one very similar at a VW show in Concord last year, I think he was from Nevada.
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Thanks for the reference. I will definitely look into doing the manifold modification. That looks great. I was thinking of using the stock exhaust manifolds as well because they sometimes give better bottom end. does it look like there will be room for the exhaust that way?

My Baja went to either LA or Vegas. I had two and sold them both withing a few months so I can't remember which one went there. Mine had a notched dog house up front to accomodate the fuel cell and radiator. You may have seen it.
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post Aug 20 2018, 04:03 PM
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Looks like the headers just come down a little more than the factory manifold.

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post Aug 20 2018, 07:39 PM
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Awesome. My previous system routed the exhaust under the pan on one side. I found some headers but they stick out to the side pretty far. From that pic it looks like they may just work great. I am also considering this radiator. I have used it before. Think it is overkill and just too much weight?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=htt...%2F263028298904

Or this one

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=htt...%2F301914245196

I will be running AC so I want plenty of capcity. ( I live in Arizona ). I did notice that you used braded line. That seems easy. I also plan to do the remote water pump like you did. How did you route your lines from the engine to the front?
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post Aug 20 2018, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE(rupert14 @ Aug 20 2018, 06:39 PM) *

Awesome. My previous system routed the exhaust under the pan on one side. I found some headers but they stick out to the side pretty far. From that pic it looks like they may just work great. I am also considering this radiator. I have used it before. Think it is overkill and just too much weight?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=htt...%2F263028298904

Or this one

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=htt...%2F301914245196

I will be running AC so I want plenty of capcity. ( I live in Arizona ). I did notice that you used braded line. That seems easy. I also plan to do the remote water pump like you did[color=#FF0000]. How did you route your lines from the engine to the front?


Stock water pump, that is what the previous owner of the swap did. Going to go underneath the car like Renegade does.
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post Oct 15 2018, 12:45 PM
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Slowly making progress, a little more radiator install work done yesterday. Hope to get the top shroud made and mounted this week.

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post Oct 15 2018, 11:11 PM
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Mike, you should probably change your user pic and user title. You're not keeping this one stock after all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Oct 28 2018, 10:19 PM
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Progress...sorta...got a whole 4 rivnuts installed tonight (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Oct 28 2018, 10:44 PM
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Keep it going! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

Little by little is what it takes sometimes.

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post Oct 29 2018, 08:07 AM
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Frustrating though it may be at times. One of my favorite sayings, of which I constantly remind myself when I look at my own glacial progress is:

A little pie is always better than no pie!

Chip away at it, my friend and before you know it: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Oct 30 2018, 07:34 PM
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you did 4 rivnuts more than me today! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Nov 4 2018, 09:27 PM
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Remember those rivnuts I installed earlier?

These plates will help hold the radiator I'm place, I will install foam between the plate and radiator.

I think 1/8" thick should be good enough.

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post Nov 12 2018, 01:31 AM
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A few more pics of radiator install. Also bought a new to me large, old Atlas lathe made for Sears, Roebuck and Co. Not bad for $200.

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post Nov 12 2018, 11:01 AM
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Nice brackets, Looks pro.

I get to try out my clecos here in a couple weeks. woot!

I love the lathe, I found someone shutting down a business a few months ago. Lots of great equipment... starting at 5000... Ug.
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post Jan 23 2019, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jul 12 2018, 04:20 PM) *

A huge shout out to Cali914 (Harry)

Not only did he deliver the V6 to my home, he stuck around for hours helping me install it (I think he did more work than I did)







Harry is such a good dude.
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post Feb 24 2019, 11:46 AM
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I know I said I was taking a break on the 914 for a while, however I needed to finish this for some cuts I will need in the future.

I could have bought a premade stand from SWAG but I wanted to make it myself. All the aluminum is scrap that I've had for over 15 years!

I originally thought I could bolt the stand to the saw..didn't work out too well. (see 3 unused countersink holes)

Total cost was less than $20, I bought a bunch of the clamps on ebay for a really good price.

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post Feb 25 2019, 09:07 AM
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Mike - Love your bandsaw stand! I hope you get the same enjoyment out of making stuff as I do. It all adds up to making the car fab go faster/better.
Keep up the great work!
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post Apr 20 2019, 11:04 PM
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Amazon to the rescue.

Found my Boge strut Bilstiens there.


The struts I soaked in straight vinegar for a bit to clean off the rust.
Plans are to paint them this Monday.

I also cleaned my garage on the drivers side of the 914 so I can finally access the front and rear suspension from the side finally, can now open the drivers side door all the way!

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QUOTE(Mueller @ Apr 20 2019, 10:04 PM) *

The struts I soaked in straight vinegar for a bit to clean off the rust.
Plans are to paint them this Monday.


Love to see the progress!

I get to do that this week. But I get to change the outsides, not the insides.

QUOTE(Mueller @ Apr 20 2019, 10:04 PM) *

I also cleaned my garage on the drivers side of the 914 so I can finally access the front and rear suspension from the side finally, can now open the drivers side door all the way!


I can relate to this too. I just keep moving my mess around to make room.
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