123 Distributor Group Buy Thread, Replacement for NLA stock Dizzy's-Order 15 % Discount |
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123 Distributor Group Buy Thread, Replacement for NLA stock Dizzy's-Order 15 % Discount |
914_teener |
Oct 19 2017, 06:04 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,248 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
So for the D-Jet model, am I to understand that: "Hardcoded advance curves with no vacuum, no bluetooth, with output for D-Jet This is the unit to choose for stock D-Jet users." This means no more need for the NLA vacuum can and the advance/retard ports it would connect to on the throttle body can be capped off? This is also a replacement solution for the trigger points. Si? Please confirm. What mechanism exactly replaces the trigger points and is it electronic or mechanical (can it wear out)? Can these dizzys be repaired/rebuilt/serviced either DIY or by sending back the the mfr? If so, this sounds like a great solution for the HTF/NLA trigger points and vacuum cans. There would be no reason now to replace D-jet injection because of HTF /non-existent parts. All wear parts are available MPS, trigger points, injectors, harnesses, sensors. Yes Jeff. Here is the answer I got from Ed on the tempeture question and the vacuum port question: On the switch model there are five curves that have vacuum advance and five curves that have vacuum retard. It modulates the vacuum curve when a hose is hooked up to the device. If there's no vacuum it doesn't change the Curve. The 95 degrees has not been a problem with any other VW or Porsche applications. I.m getting it. |
StratPlayer |
Oct 19 2017, 06:05 PM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,298 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Mine is a 76 D Jet, 2056. The install was easy just follow the install instructions and it will be easy. I will take some pics of my setup tomorrow and post them. We set the curve on my setup to 4. Car runs like a raped ape.
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914_teener |
Oct 19 2017, 06:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,248 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
.....oh yea it uses a Hall Effect sensor to trigger the injectors from what I was told.
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914_teener |
Oct 19 2017, 06:08 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,248 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
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StratPlayer |
Oct 19 2017, 06:08 PM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,298 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Here is the dizzy that I'm using. When it was installed a new blue coil was installed with it.
https://www.123ignitionshop.com/gb/porsche/...he4rvieset.html |
914_teener |
Oct 19 2017, 06:31 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,248 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Would the GB include the /6 distributor? Anybody use one for a 2.4 / 2.7 / 3.0? Inquiring minds want to know. I also have a friend with a Fiat that would probably buy if the discount could apply. Can.t answer for -6 but the discount for any other model would apply to the discount for three weeks Pete. |
Amphicar770 |
Oct 19 2017, 07:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,209 Joined: 20-April 10 From: PA, USA Member No.: 11,639 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I will go for one. Just need to make sure that t his is the correct (and only) option for my 1974 2.0, completely stock???
http://123ignitionusa.com/porsche-912-914-...ncludes-spacer/ |
bandjoey |
Oct 19 2017, 08:09 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,930 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Can someone explain the Bluetooth part? What does it do and how does it effect the motor or drive Ability?
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jd74914 |
Oct 19 2017, 09:11 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,814 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
Can someone explain the Bluetooth part? What does it do and how does it effect the motor or drive Ability? It's so you can custom tune your advance curve rather than use the preset curves, something that could be useful with a non-stock motor or if you like fine tuning. If you're not the kind of person who is going to fiddle with your exact ignition timing and just want a more reliable, modern components it's really not necessary. |
JeffBowlsby |
Oct 19 2017, 09:39 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,741 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
I found the manual for these and it has a list of the advance curve presets and comparable stock dizzys but...didn't see one listed for my stock 74 2.0L 205A dizzy. What to do?
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mgphoto |
Oct 19 2017, 11:20 PM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,365 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
I found the manual for these and it has a list of the advance curve presets and comparable stock dizzys but...didn't see one listed for my stock 74 2.0L 205A dizzy. What to do? The 205A is Bosch # 0231 174 011 with retard only throttle body for '74. Switch position B according to the install manual page I posted earlier. |
JeffBowlsby |
Oct 19 2017, 11:28 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,741 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
Aha! They used the Bosch PN. Muchas gracias...
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euro911 |
Oct 20 2017, 12:36 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
OK, building up my wife's 71 1.7L motor to a 1.9L, keeping the stock D-jet system. I don't remember if the OEM distributor had a vacuum can on it or not ... guess I'd better locate it and take a peek.
I'm tentatively in, pending verification of which model # I'll need (vacuum option or not) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
BeatNavy |
Oct 20 2017, 06:12 AM
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Certified Professional Scapegoat Group: Members Posts: 2,938 Joined: 26-February 14 From: Easton, MD Member No.: 17,042 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Placed my order this morning. Coupon code "914World" wasn't working last night but it is this morning.
Looking forward to dialing the curve to the "raped ape" setting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks again for getting this going, Rob. |
DRPHIL914 |
Oct 20 2017, 06:20 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,810 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
So I have a 75 2.0 but with a TB from a 73, I guess its the same non-blue tooth model, I just select the proper setting depending on whether or not I have the advance, retard or both? I have both on mine....
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nditiz1 |
Oct 20 2017, 09:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,202 Joined: 26-May 15 From: Mount Airy, Maryland Member No.: 18,763 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Placed my order this morning. Coupon code "914World" wasn't working last night but it is this morning. Looking forward to dialing the curve to the "raped ape" setting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks again for getting this going, Rob. Rob - I'm right there with ya. Just ordered opt #4 from OG post. Coupon is live for those that can't wait (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) |
pete000 |
Oct 20 2017, 09:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
Ordering today... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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914_teener |
Oct 20 2017, 10:42 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,248 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Order Placed.
This will be interesting. |
CMONNETT |
Oct 20 2017, 02:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 27-September 07 From: Cibolo, TX Member No.: 8,162 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Order Placed.
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TJB/914 |
Oct 20 2017, 03:15 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,380 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I am in for one on my D-Jet F.I. engine. Tom I just placed my order for my 1974 914 2.0 D-Jet F.I. (Original) stock with a few internal mods. combo=123/Porsche-4-R-V-IE distributor (injection) + coil +spark Plug wires (black) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Hope I ordered the correct one for my 914. Tom |
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