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| RolinkHaus |
 Oct 7 2019, 05:08 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None  |
Noticed the engine bracket is bent. Not to worry, the engine will probably be dropped to replace and remove the oil cooler. Good times.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)
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| URY914 |
Oct 7 2019, 06:04 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,129 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Not a biggie. Mine was bent one time.
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| RolinkHaus |
Oct 7 2019, 06:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
Forgot the pic
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| Mikey914 |
Oct 7 2019, 06:29 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None 
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Bolt not bracket, and yes replace it.
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| 914Sixer |
Oct 7 2019, 06:49 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,869 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Get one of Bruce Stone's HD brackets and not worry about it again.
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| RolinkHaus |
Oct 7 2019, 07:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
914Sixer,
Where can I get them? |
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| Mikey914 |
Oct 7 2019, 10:48 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,638 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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The "mount" is not bent. just the bolt. If you run over a speed bump that has some height you will do this again. Jack it up. unbolt and go to your local hardware store. should be about $3 give or take.
I do have some of Bruce's kits but really it's only one bolt. put the bling on it when you drop and clean. |
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| sixnotfour |
Oct 8 2019, 02:30 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,411 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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engine mounts probably separated too..
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| RolinkHaus |
Oct 8 2019, 04:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
Are these mounts interchangeable with my set up?
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| Maltese Falcon |
Oct 8 2019, 05:12 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,634 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(RolinkHaus @ Oct 8 2019, 03:16 AM)  Are these mounts interchangeable with my set up? Pictured mount you show here would be for the 1970-72 model years, as the Outboard - Located style. These attach at the engine bar Left and Right ends, and then the engine is attached (solid) directly to the center of this bar.. 1973-up style is what you are running; with solid mounted Outboard...and the different style neoprene/ studded mounts (center of bar) that are shown in prev post. The latter is required in your model year...and a new bolt ¡ |
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| Olympic 914 |
Oct 8 2019, 09:19 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,662 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(914Sixer @ Oct 7 2019, 08:49 PM) Get one of Bruce Stone's HD brackets and not worry about it again. Not to dis Bruce's products but it is not a bad idea to have a weak link there. If you hit something its better to have the bolt bend or the U bracket bend. you can easily hammer the U bracket back into shape or replace the bolt. you don't want to strengthen the bracket and have the motor mount welded to the body bend instead. JMHO Don't be surprised if the bolts break off. just apply some heat and drive the piece out. |
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| RolinkHaus |
Oct 8 2019, 10:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: 21-July 18 From: Noblesville, IN Member No.: 22,330 Region Association: None |
Good point. I think I’m just going replace the factory parts.
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| bdstone914 |
Oct 8 2019, 02:16 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,512 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Oct 8 2019, 08:19 AM) QUOTE(914Sixer @ Oct 7 2019, 08:49 PM) Get one of Bruce Stone's HD brackets and not worry about it again. Not to dis Bruce's products but it is not a bad idea to have a weak link there. If you hit something its better to have the bolt bend or the U bracket bend. you can easily hammer the U bracket back into shape or replace the bolt. you don't want to strengthen the bracket and have the motor mount welded to the body bend instead. JMHO Don't be surprised if the bolts break off. just apply some heat and drive the piece out. My brackets are only a few thousand thicker than original. The bolts will still bend when hit. Mist if those brackets are bent from lifting the car from the engine bar. That's why I remade them. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| bdstone914 |
Oct 8 2019, 02:20 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,512 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
QUOTE(RolinkHaus @ Oct 7 2019, 04:08 PM) Noticed the engine bracket is bent. Not to worry, the engine will probably be dropped to replace and remove the oil cooler. Good times.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) Both the bolt and bracket are probably bent. When you replace them insert the bolt from the bottom. When the car bottoms out it prevents the threads from damage making removal difficult. Bruce |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Oct 8 2019, 03:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,816 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
the bolt is upside down
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| davep |
Oct 8 2019, 03:25 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,137 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada  |
Bruce & George are correct, the head of the bolt should be at the bottom. The channel bracket will be bent; I've not see a used one in nearly 50 years that wasn't. May as well use new ones like Bruce sells; that kit looks well thought out. Make sure the holes in the bar are clean and well greased; I've seen many bolts seized in the bars. I would grease and cap the exposed threads when done.
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| Literati914 |
Oct 9 2019, 11:24 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,434 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 7,222 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ Oct 8 2019, 06:12 AM) QUOTE(RolinkHaus @ Oct 8 2019, 03:16 AM) Are these mounts interchangeable with my set up? Pictured mount you show here would be for the 1970-72 model years, as the Outboard - Located style. These attach at the engine bar Left and Right ends, and then the engine is attached (solid) directly to the center of this bar.. Does anyone have a picture of these installed ? I keep reading these go on the ends on early cars but have never seen it.. and now I've got a '72 I'm messing with. TIA. |
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| sixnotfour |
Oct 9 2019, 12:37 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,411 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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After 50 yrs ,,it really matters which transmission you have,, early tail shift(lower pic)... later side shift(upper pic)..
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