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> Suspension and Brake Refresh, New Wheels and Suspension Adjusted
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post Oct 31 2019, 08:14 AM
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Calipers stripped, blasted and painted.
Will report back on long term endurance of VHT gold caliper paint. They sure look good though.

Got several boxes from Pelican with all new pads rotors and rebuild kits for the calipers. Speed bleeders. Stainless hoses. Bearings will be redone also.

Replacing CV pivot shafts due to wear and destroying one of the threads (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) getting bushings from 914rubber on those and shafts from 914werke

RH side had no shim whatsoever which makes sense as to why that wheel was tipped in so far! Got new 3mm shims to at least get a new base point.

Settled on 914rubber 100lb rear springs and bilsteins.

Fun project so far, sure takes a lot of time and patience but I'm hoping the payoff is worth it!
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post Oct 31 2019, 10:12 AM
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It will be. Like all vintage German cars 914s respond very well to good parts and attention to detail.
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post Oct 31 2019, 10:28 AM
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post Oct 31 2019, 10:29 AM
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post Oct 31 2019, 10:30 AM
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Calipers are looking good!

Please chime in on the difficulty level on reassembly of calipers with the new parts. I'm about to take this brake project on real soon.
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post Oct 31 2019, 11:18 AM
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Here’s Eric’s /PMB Performance video for rebuilding rear brake calipers. It does include rebuilding the e-brake lever. Great video !!!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_DnizKOZM&app=desktop
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post Nov 1 2019, 07:30 AM
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@ducrs I followed the pelican disassembly article and took TONS of pictures along the way. The RIBE bolts were a pain in the ass to get out, they hold the 2 half’s together.
I’ll be heading to Tacoma Screw to get new bolts to mate the two half’s. They are M7 bolts and there is a very limited selection at my local ACE. It appears One caliper had been rebuilt prior and had nuts on the other end of the bolts. They must have blown out the treads?

Will be following along with the PMB video to reinstall, thanks @mepstein
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post Nov 1 2019, 07:34 AM
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I’m pretty sure all the calipers had nuts for the ribe bolts and not screwed directly into the caliper. If that’s what I’m getting from your last post. I don’t think there is a source for those bolts other than used. They are pretty unusual.
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post Nov 1 2019, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 1 2019, 06:34 AM) *

I’m pretty sure all the calipers had nuts for the ribe bolts and not screwed directly into the caliper. If that’s what I’m getting from your last post. I don’t think there is a source for those bolts other than used. They are pretty unusual.


@mepstein strange! 1 of the calipers is threaded with no nuts! Maybe the PO tapped the calipers? Hmm. I was thinking of drilling out those threads and doing nuts and bolts both sides. Perhaps one caliper is aftermarket?
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post Nov 1 2019, 07:46 AM
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post Nov 1 2019, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 1 2019, 06:34 AM) *

I’m pretty sure all the calipers had nuts for the ribe bolts and not screwed directly into the caliper. If that’s what I’m getting from your last post. I don’t think there is a source for those bolts other than used. They are pretty unusual.


@mepstein strange! 1 of the calipers is threaded with no nuts! Maybe the PO tapped the calipers? Hmm. I was thinking of drilling out those threads and doing nuts and bolts both sides. Perhaps one caliper is aftermarket?

Before you drill out the caliper, I would call Eric/PMB for advice. I'm always leary about modifying brakes and I always go to Eric with brake questions. I'm sure there was a reason they used nuts over a threaded body.
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post Nov 1 2019, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 1 2019, 07:34 AM) *

I’m pretty sure all the calipers had nuts for the ribe bolts and not screwed directly into the caliper. If that’s what I’m getting from your last post. I don’t think there is a source for those bolts other than used. They are pretty unusual.


My car had a mix of early and late so I got a nice education on the differences.

Early - Ribe star socket through bolts with nuts.

Late - hex head bolts threaded into the caliper housing (no nuts). The hex head bolts may also be stamped "RIBE" on the head, so it can be a little confusing if we just call them ribe bolts. My late hex head bolts were a mix of Ribe and Verbus.

As far as ease of reassembly - the REassembly is super easy. Takes just a few miutes per caliper. It is the DISassembly that can be a bitch. On a scale of 1-10, I'd say the disassembly can be anywhere from 4-9.5 depending on condition of the caliper and reassembly of a cleaned and prepped caliper an easy 2. I'd put the overall rebuild of a caliper that doesn't give you too many fits at around 5. It's a dirty and time consuming process, but not terrible until you encounter something that is seized and doesn't want to come apart.

Oh, it can also be a really PITA if you send the housings to the wong pater and they come back ruined. Ask me how I know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Send them to Eric for plating.

@tvdinnerbythepool your painted calipers look really nice! Will be curious to see how they hold up. I'm impressed.
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post Nov 1 2019, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Nov 1 2019, 10:00 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 1 2019, 07:34 AM) *

I’m pretty sure all the calipers had nuts for the ribe bolts and not screwed directly into the caliper. If that’s what I’m getting from your last post. I don’t think there is a source for those bolts other than used. They are pretty unusual.


My car had a mix of early and late so I got a nice education on the differences.

Early - Ribe star socket through bolts with nuts.

Late - hex head bolts threaded into the caliper housing (no nuts). The hex head bolts may also be stamped "RIBE" on the head, so it can be a little confusing if we just call them ribe bolts. My late hex head bolts were a mix of Ribe and Verbus.

As far as ease of reassembly - the REassembly is super easy. Takes just a few miutes per caliper. It is the DISassembly that can be a bitch. On a scale of 1-10, I'd say the disassembly can be anywhere from 4-9.5 depending on condition of the caliper and reassembly of a cleaned and prepped caliper an easy 2. I'd put the overall rebuild of a caliper that doesn't give you too many fits at around 5. It's a dirty and time consuming process, but not terrible until you encounter something that is seized and doesn't want to come apart.

Oh, it can also be a really PITA if you send the housings to the wong pater and they come back ruined. Ask me how I know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Send them to Eric for plating.

@tvdinnerbythepool your painted calipers look really nice! Will be curious to see how they hold up. I'm impressed.

Almost all of my cars have been early so that's why I'm mistaken on the caliper fasteners. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Nov 5 2019, 07:46 PM
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Drivers side caliper rebuilt!
Still sourcing bolts for the other side
Followed the PMB video for the most part with the occasional improvisation lolAttached ImageAttached Image
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Drivers side caliper rebuilt!
Still sourcing bolts for the other side
Followed the PMB video for the most part with the occasional improvisation lolAttached ImageAttached Image


Looking really nice. Well done.
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Yes, those look great!
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post Nov 13 2019, 09:45 AM
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post Nov 13 2019, 10:27 AM
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Bils seem to take a couple hundred miles to "break in" and smooth out. Don't be alarmed if they are a little stiff your first ride.
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