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Suspension and Brake Refresh, New Wheels and Suspension Adjusted |
tvdinnerbythepool |
Nov 13 2019, 11:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 24-July 18 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 22,336 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Bils seem to take a couple hundred miles to "break in" and smooth out. Don't be alarmed if they are a little stiff your first ride. Thanks for the heads up @mepstein |
type2man |
Nov 13 2019, 06:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 3-March 09 From: Miami, Fl Member No.: 10,127 Region Association: South East States |
If you already have the rear arms out, I would definitely do the wheel bearings.
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tvdinnerbythepool |
Nov 14 2019, 11:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 24-July 18 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 22,336 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Bearings are in! Going to make a threaded tool to compress the hubs in evenly like Eric Shea's video shows Got these really nice pivot arm shafts/bushings from 914rubber @mikey914 @914werke hooked me up with a replacement hub (PO destroyed one and reinstalled anyway) and some hard brake lines. CV joints re-packed and new gaskets. 1 gasket was completely missing and was throwing grease inside the control arm by the hub. Glad I caught that. Tomorrow will try and get the hubs installed and the stainless lines in and then I think I'm ready to start bolting this thing back together!! |
tvdinnerbythepool |
Nov 15 2019, 11:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 24-July 18 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 22,336 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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tvdinnerbythepool |
Nov 15 2019, 11:56 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 24-July 18 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 22,336 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Tbrown4x4 |
Nov 15 2019, 01:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 706 Joined: 13-May 14 From: Port Orchard, WA Member No.: 17,338 Region Association: None |
The shoulder on the hub will bottom out on the inner bearing race. The hub doesn't go ALL the way through. The hub and the stub axle traps the inner races when you torque the axle nut. (To the proper torque, of course.)
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TargaToy |
Nov 15 2019, 02:32 PM
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-NONSOLIS RADIOS SEDIOUIS FULMINA MITTO- Group: Members Posts: 706 Joined: 26-March 10 From: DelMarVa Peninsula Member No.: 11,509 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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914werke |
Nov 15 2019, 03:35 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 11,005 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If you look at the process for installing either the various Delrin / poly or the OE replacement rubber versions it is typically necessary to "clearance" the plastic ones, & use a special tool to draw the tight rubber over the shafts for the fitment.
The .01 removed to clean any corrosion isnt significant enough to adversely effect fitment. IF you are going Polybronze they (Elephant) provide new shafts with their kit. |
TargaToy |
Nov 15 2019, 03:59 PM
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-NONSOLIS RADIOS SEDIOUIS FULMINA MITTO- Group: Members Posts: 706 Joined: 26-March 10 From: DelMarVa Peninsula Member No.: 11,509 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If you look at the process for installing either the various Delrin / poly or the OE replacement rubber version it is typically necessary to "clearance" the plastic ones, & use a special tool to draw the tight rubber over the shafts for the fitment. The .01 removed to clean any corrosion isnt significant enough to adversely effect fitment. IF you are going Polybronze they (Elephant) provide new shafts with their kit. Gotcha. That makes sense. |
Mikey914 |
Nov 15 2019, 06:19 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,739 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Actually when Elephant made their rods they used a standard size tube that was not metric line the OEM. The bushings they made are to go with their rod, so they don’t work well with the stock rods (and the ones I made).
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914werke |
Nov 16 2019, 12:21 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 11,005 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Actually when Elephant made their rods they used a standard size tube that was not metric line the OEM. The bushings they made are to go with their rod, so they don’t work well with the stock rods (and the ones I made). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) why would you bother with used OE ones if you are getting new ones as part of their (elephant) kits? |
tvdinnerbythepool |
Nov 16 2019, 07:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 24-July 18 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 22,336 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Mikey914 |
Nov 16 2019, 11:22 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,739 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Actually when Elephant made their rods they used a standard size tube that was not metric line the OEM. The bushings they made are to go with their rod, so they don’t work well with the stock rods (and the ones I made). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) why would you bother with used OE ones if you are getting new ones as part of their (elephant) kits?Yes but you can't use the rubber without their shafts. It will not fit correctly as they made a non standard size. |
tvdinnerbythepool |
Nov 23 2019, 12:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 24-July 18 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 22,336 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
With the back pretty much wrapped up it's on to the front.
Ripped it all out and have a pretty good plan of action. New A Arm Bushings/Install Tool (914 Rubber + Ian's Video should help) Bilsteins on the way to match the rears New Rotors, Pads, Bearings, Ball-joints New Stainless soft lines Rebuilding Calipers (Rears went well so here is round 2 for me) Tie Rod Ends (Stock not turbo upgrade for me) Bought the install tool for the ball joints, got the old ones out with the air chisel in about 10 seconds surprisingly! Bushings were totally shot, out of round and a mess. Anyways, guidance as always appreciated. Have most of the parts on hand if not already shipping to me so I'm hoping to keep the momentum between trips. |
tvdinnerbythepool |
Nov 23 2019, 12:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 24-July 18 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 22,336 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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tvdinnerbythepool |
Nov 23 2019, 12:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 24-July 18 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 22,336 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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mepstein |
Nov 23 2019, 01:31 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,635 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Heat up the fittings that hold the bushings until you see some smoke and then twist them off by inserting a large screwdriver and turning. Wear leather gloves. Propane works fine for this. MAP is just faster.
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mepstein |
Nov 23 2019, 01:36 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,635 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Starting to see some progress and feeling like I didn't ruin everything and she may drive once more. Lol! I'm curious about the rear shafts. None of the ones I've taken apart seem to have washers on the ends of the shafts. Is that correct? Attached image(s) |
tvdinnerbythepool |
Nov 23 2019, 02:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 24-July 18 From: Olympia, WA Member No.: 22,336 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Starting to see some progress and feeling like I didn't ruin everything and she may drive once more. Lol! I'm curious about the rear shafts. None of the ones I've taken apart seem to have washers on the ends of the shafts. Is that correct? @mepstein I put the washers on there...it just feels wierd to not! Should I take them off? Was there a reason to NOT use a washer? |
mepstein |
Nov 23 2019, 02:10 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,635 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Starting to see some progress and feeling like I didn't ruin everything and she may drive once more. Lol! I'm curious about the rear shafts. None of the ones I've taken apart seem to have washers on the ends of the shafts. Is that correct? @mepstein I put the washers on there...it just feels wierd to not! Should I take them off? Was there a reason to NOT use a washer? No, I'm not saying you are wrong. I put a washer there as well. I'm just wondering why Porsche didn't (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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