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> Suspension and Brake Refresh, New Wheels and Suspension Adjusted
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post Nov 15 2019, 01:14 PM
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The shoulder on the hub will bottom out on the inner bearing race. The hub doesn't go ALL the way through. The hub and the stub axle traps the inner races when you torque the axle nut. (To the proper torque, of course.)
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post Nov 15 2019, 02:32 PM
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Shafted!


I've been curious, since you mentioned it in an earlier post, if milling the shafts like that causes any "slop" in the fitment of the new bushings, presuming they are designed for factory dimension of the pivot shafts.
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post Nov 15 2019, 03:35 PM
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If you look at the process for installing either the various Delrin / poly or the OE replacement rubber versions it is typically necessary to "clearance" the plastic ones, & use a special tool to draw the tight rubber over the shafts for the fitment.
The .01 removed to clean any corrosion isnt significant enough to adversely effect fitment.
IF you are going Polybronze they (Elephant) provide new shafts with their kit.
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post Nov 15 2019, 03:59 PM
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If you look at the process for installing either the various Delrin / poly or the OE replacement rubber version it is typically necessary to "clearance" the plastic ones, & use a special tool to draw the tight rubber over the shafts for the fitment.
The .01 removed to clean any corrosion isnt significant enough to adversely effect fitment.
IF you are going Polybronze they (Elephant) provide new shafts with their kit.


Gotcha. That makes sense.
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post Nov 15 2019, 06:19 PM
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Actually when Elephant made their rods they used a standard size tube that was not metric line the OEM. The bushings they made are to go with their rod, so they don’t work well with the stock rods (and the ones I made).
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post Nov 16 2019, 12:21 AM
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Actually when Elephant made their rods they used a standard size tube that was not metric line the OEM. The bushings they made are to go with their rod, so they don’t work well with the stock rods (and the ones I made).
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) why would you bother with used OE ones if you are getting new ones as part of their (elephant) kits?
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post Nov 16 2019, 07:05 PM
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Starting to see some progress and feeling like I didn't ruin everything and she may drive once more. Lol!Attached Image
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post Nov 16 2019, 11:22 PM
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Actually when Elephant made their rods they used a standard size tube that was not metric line the OEM. The bushings they made are to go with their rod, so they don’t work well with the stock rods (and the ones I made).
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) why would you bother with used OE ones if you are getting new ones as part of their (elephant) kits?

Yes but you can't use the rubber without their shafts.
It will not fit correctly as they made a non standard size.
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post Nov 23 2019, 12:54 PM
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With the back pretty much wrapped up it's on to the front.

Ripped it all out and have a pretty good plan of action.

New A Arm Bushings/Install Tool (914 Rubber + Ian's Video should help)
Bilsteins on the way to match the rears
New Rotors, Pads, Bearings, Ball-joints
New Stainless soft lines
Rebuilding Calipers (Rears went well so here is round 2 for me)
Tie Rod Ends (Stock not turbo upgrade for me)

Bought the install tool for the ball joints, got the old ones out with the air chisel in about 10 seconds surprisingly!

Bushings were totally shot, out of round and a mess.

Anyways, guidance as always appreciated. Have most of the parts on hand if not already shipping to me so I'm hoping to keep the momentum between trips.Attached Image
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post Nov 23 2019, 12:54 PM
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post Nov 23 2019, 12:55 PM
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This was the worse of the two sides

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post Nov 23 2019, 01:31 PM
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Heat up the fittings that hold the bushings until you see some smoke and then twist them off by inserting a large screwdriver and turning. Wear leather gloves. Propane works fine for this. MAP is just faster.
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Starting to see some progress and feeling like I didn't ruin everything and she may drive once more. Lol!Attached Image


I'm curious about the rear shafts. None of the ones I've taken apart seem to have washers on the ends of the shafts. Is that correct?


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post Nov 23 2019, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(tvdinnerbythepool @ Nov 16 2019, 08:05 PM) *

Starting to see some progress and feeling like I didn't ruin everything and she may drive once more. Lol!Attached Image


I'm curious about the rear shafts. None of the ones I've taken apart seem to have washers on the ends of the shafts. Is that correct?


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I put the washers on there...it just feels wierd to not! Should I take them off? Was there a reason to NOT use a washer?
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 23 2019, 11:36 AM) *

QUOTE(tvdinnerbythepool @ Nov 16 2019, 08:05 PM) *

Starting to see some progress and feeling like I didn't ruin everything and she may drive once more. Lol!Attached Image


I'm curious about the rear shafts. None of the ones I've taken apart seem to have washers on the ends of the shafts. Is that correct?


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I put the washers on there...it just feels wierd to not! Should I take them off? Was there a reason to NOT use a washer?

No, I'm not saying you are wrong. I put a washer there as well. I'm just wondering why Porsche didn't (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Nov 23 2019, 02:34 PM
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Looks nice , did you put the spring retainer clip at the top space?
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post Nov 23 2019, 03:13 PM
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@mepstein I was thinking the same thing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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@DRPHIL914 Hi! Not sure what that means...can you clarify?
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post Nov 23 2019, 04:47 PM
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@DRPHIL914 Hi! Not sure what that means...can you clarify?

There are 6 I think slots for the retainer that holds the spring retainer clip. It looks like you are set at the very top one ( grooves on the yellow billestien shock) it ma be a bit too springy and high at that setting, at least that was my experience. Mine is at the third slot down, seems about right for height and feel, but every car is different
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post Nov 23 2019, 05:06 PM
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@DRPHIL914 gotcha! Thanks for clarifying. Yes It's at the top spot.

I'm having to kind of do a reset on the car. I bought it about 18 months ago and i'm trying to under the fuckerage and get it back to stock-ish. It has been "Modified" by the last guy who did a piss poor job on everything. Missing alignment shims to the wrong ECU, everything has been done wrong on this car.

I'm totally open to pulling the springs out and changing notches.

The more pressing issue with the lower ride height is the Rivieras (I believe, correct me if i'm wrong) have tires too large for my car and their offset 195/60/R15. With the saggy old springs there was about a piece of paper clearance between the tire and the fender (That includes the fact that the PO rolled the Fender Lip to try and make clearance).

Any guidance on tire size for these?

I'd like to buy Fuchs at some point and have been contacted, but this thing is like a money pit at the moment, lol! (I'm sure it always will be)

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