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> Suspension and Brake Refresh, New Wheels and Suspension Adjusted
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post Nov 23 2019, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(tvdinnerbythepool @ Nov 23 2019, 07:06 PM) *

@DRPHIL914 gotcha! Thanks for clarifying. Yes It's at the top spot.

I'm having to kind of do a reset on the car. I bought it about 18 months ago and i'm trying to under the fuckerage and get it back to stock-ish. It has been "Modified" by the last guy who did a piss poor job on everything. Missing alignment shims to the wrong ECU, everything has been done wrong on this car.

I'm totally open to pulling the springs out and changing notches.

The more pressing issue with the lower ride height is the Rivieras (I believe, correct me if i'm wrong) have tires too large for my car and their offset 195/60/R15. With the saggy old springs there was about a piece of paper clearance between the tire and the fender (That includes the fact that the PO rolled the Fender Lip to try and make clearance).

Any guidance on tire size for these?

I'd like to buy Fuchs at some point and have been contacted, but this thing is like a money pit at the moment, lol! (I'm sure it always will be)

I put my springs on a lower notch but the car was so low I had to raise it up. I would start where you are, let the car settle a bit and then reassess. Too high is better than too low.
It's hard to go wide with Rivs. They just have the wrong offset. I have 195x65x15 on a stock narrowbody with 5.5' 2.0 Fuchs, fit is great. 205x60x15 on 6" cookies. Fit is very good. Neither car has rolled fenders. Starting with the right wheel is important.
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post Nov 23 2019, 07:16 PM
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Looking at the tyre size charts for comparison my
205/55-16 diameter is 24.9” your
195/60-15 diameter is 24.2” looks like 195/65-15 would be perfect, you are about 3/4” smaller than stock. Also they offset of time is an issue,
I have lots of room with 205/55-16 on 6” wide rims so you can get the correct 15”x5.5” rims (2.0 Fuchs) and you can do 205 wide , some guys have been able to do 215’s but this varies from car to car. Don’t go crazy it doesn’t help much at all for street driving to go so wide. Remember a 205/55-16 is 8” wide on a 6” rim, 195/60 15 is almost 7” wide on a 5.5” rim, so plenty of tread contact on the ground.
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post Nov 23 2019, 08:35 PM
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Any one else have Rivieras that can weigh in?

@drphil914 I'm thinking I could go down to 185 or even 175. These 195s are FAT and just look too wide aaaaaand they don't really fit. More of the last guys "mods" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)
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I also noticed some tire rub inside the front wheel well...
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post Nov 24 2019, 06:35 AM
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QUOTE(tvdinnerbythepool @ Nov 23 2019, 09:35 PM) *

Any one else have Rivieras that can weigh in?

@drphil914 I'm thinking I could go down to 185 or even 175. These 195s are FAT and just look too wide aaaaaand they don't really fit. More of the last guys "mods" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)
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I also noticed some tire rub inside the front wheel well...


I have not had the Rivieras but my car had the EMPI VW rims on it with similar issues when I bought it , even rubbed with 185’s. I do like the Pedrini and Mahle best but the 4-lug Fuchs are nice, too, all have proper spacing to better fit a 914. I had a set of thr Mahle but ended up doing the 5-lug conversion and going with Fuchs. You can find some on World Classifieds I am sure.
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post Nov 24 2019, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(tvdinnerbythepool @ Nov 23 2019, 04:13 PM) *

@mepstein I was thinking the same thing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

So I think what Porsche calls the link bearing (#5) that holds the end of the shaft in place is acting as a washer on the shaft. There is a normal washer on the end for the inner suspension console.


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post Nov 24 2019, 02:29 PM
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There are 6 I think slots for the retainer that holds the spring retainer clip. It looks like you are set at the very top one ( grooves on the yellow billestien shock) it ma be a bit too springy and high at that setting, at least that was my experience. Mine is at the third slot down, seems about right for height and feel, but every car is different


it also will depend on the spring rate and unloaded length of the spring.
I have 140lb Weltmeisters (don't know the unloaded length) and the spring perch is on 4th notch from the bottom
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post Dec 1 2019, 10:43 AM
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Holy cow! That was stressful!
Not sure how in the world this got done before Ian's video. Either way, one side done. Will do the otherside tomorrow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Dec 2 2019, 09:40 PM
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Stupid question for the night. Bilsteins going up front.

Does this little rubber gasket go on between the strut and the top cover as like a bumper? or does it go on after the cover is on between the strut cover and the car?Attached Image
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And while I'm asking...Torsion Bars!

L for Driver
R for passenger

But....which way do they go in? Does the L/R point to the headlights or the driver?

Thanks!!
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post Dec 2 2019, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(tvdinnerbythepool @ Dec 1 2019, 11:43 AM) *

Holy cow! That was stressful!
Not sure how in the world this got done before Ian's video. Either way, one side done. Will do the otherside tomorrow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

Ha! You shoulda seen the outtakes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Looks like you did great. Congrats!
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post Dec 2 2019, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(tvdinnerbythepool @ Dec 2 2019, 10:40 PM) *

Stupid question for the night. Bilsteins going up front.

Does this little rubber gasket go on between the strut and the top cover as like a bumper? or does it go on after the cover is on between the strut cover and the car?Attached Image

The little rubber gasket gets tossed. It's just there for shipping. Unlike Boge, there is no bumper under the cylindrical dust cover. Bilsteins have an internal bumper. Also, no oil in the strut housing like older strut inserts. All my info comes direct from Bilstein.
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And while I'm asking...Torsion Bars!

L for Driver
R for passenger

But....which way do they go in? Does the L/R point to the headlights or the driver?

Thanks!!

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post Dec 3 2019, 08:10 AM
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Thank you! @mepstein and @cuddy_k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Dec 3 2019, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(tvdinnerbythepool @ Dec 2 2019, 08:43 PM) *

And while I'm asking...Torsion Bars!

L for Driver
R for passenger

But....which way do they go in? Does the L/R point to the headlights or the driver?

Thanks!!


Turns out it doesn't really matter. The twist on the bar is in the same direction no matter which end you install to the front. Swapping left and right is a different story.
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post Dec 18 2019, 10:34 PM
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Making slow progress on the front rebuild.

Rebuild kit for calipers did not come with the little O-Rings that seal the 2 halves.

My local hardware store has lots of miscellaneous O-rings so hopefully I can find something that works.Attached Image
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Very nice looking work!

Make sure the O-rings are brake fluid proof. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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QUOTE(tvdinnerbythepool @ Dec 18 2019, 08:34 PM) *

Making slow progress on the front rebuild.

Rebuild kit for calipers did not come with the little O-Rings that seal the 2 halves.

My local hardware store has lots of miscellaneous O-rings so hopefully I can find something that works.Attached Image

We have a line of viton O rings we make under contract for another company we have the ability sell them as it's another industry. Let me know what you need.

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Thanks @mikey914 text with specs sent

Can someone educate me on the "brake piston gauge plates"?

I took a 50/50 guess as to the orientation....is there a correct up and down or I guess should it be right or left? The piston could rotate 180 and go either way...?? (I'm sure if there is a wrong way that's what I did!)

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Thanks @mikey914 text with specs sent

Can someone educate me on the "brake piston gauge plates"?

I took a 50/50 guess as to the orientation....is there a correct up and down or I guess should it be right or left? The piston could rotate 180 and go either way...?? (I'm sure if there is a wrong way that's what I did!)


Explanation starting near the bottom of the last pic in this article: https://www.pmbperformance.com/brakehowto.html
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If doing both calipers at the same time be sure to check orientation before bolting halfs together.
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