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andrewck
post Jul 26 2020, 11:30 AM
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Greeting from Denver. I was at a 996 meetup a few weeks ago and started talking to a guy selling his 914 project car. A week later, I am said owner of a 1975 Laguna Blue 914 with two 2.0L motors, a couple of transmissions, and lots of parts to put it together. To top it all off, I made a new friend in the PO and have had a warm welcome into the 914 world.

PO spent a lot of money and effort to addressing rust so I'm starting off with a fantastic chassis. I'm spoiled as I come from the 996 world where I don't have to worry about many of the issues that come with 45+ year old cars. I'm decent with a wrench, though I have no fabricating skills and have never rebuilt a motor, so this is all a learning experience.

The plan is to clean the "complete" motor and redo seals, belts, gaskets, other basic things to get it running and just drive it. Meanwhile I'll explore options on the second block, and am already looking into a 2056 build. Step one of getting the car back on the road looks relatively straightforward, but the catch is I don't have a garage/shop to work on the car, so much of it will be done in my livingroom and parking spot.

Already appreciate all the knowledge posted here and I'm finding inspiration in a lot of your builds. The search function has been my friend, but I'm sure I'll be asking questions going forward.

-Andrew

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post Jul 26 2020, 11:37 AM
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Yes, I do mean it when I said I'm tearing down the motor in my livingroom. I have a very understanding girlfriend.

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post Jul 26 2020, 11:44 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Looks like you have a great car to start with. You definitely picked the right girlfriend. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)
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post Jul 26 2020, 01:45 PM
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What a terrific color and nice chassis. I don't think I could get away with the engine in our home, but you got a keeper there if she allows it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Jul 31 2020, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 26 2020, 01:45 PM) *

What a terrific color and nice chassis. I don't think I could get away with the engine in our home, but you got a keeper there if she allows it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Just a few days in and I already have a scare. I’ve pulled tin off the engine, cleaned everything I could, and ordered hoses, hardware, and seals. I just opened the oil filler neck and saw something at the bottom of the chamber. I grabbed a magnet, and this 1” piece of metal shot out.

Does anybody have a clue as to what this might be? I’m hoping it’s a foreign object and not a piece of the case, but I’m stumped as to where it came from. My hope with this motor was to run it without splitting the case, but that plan is in doubt now. The metal piece has jagged edges and is shiny. Any guesses are appreciated.
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post Jul 31 2020, 04:46 PM
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Looks like a solid starting point (little to almost no rust). Love that color!
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post Jul 31 2020, 05:18 PM
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Opened the sump plate and it’s metal city! Looks like it’s time to split the case and check the damage.
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post Jul 31 2020, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(andrewck @ Jul 31 2020, 12:27 PM) *

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 26 2020, 01:45 PM) *

What a terrific color and nice chassis. I don't think I could get away with the engine in our home, but you got a keeper there if she allows it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Just a few days in and I already have a scare. I’ve pulled tin off the engine, cleaned everything I could, and ordered hoses, hardware, and seals. I just opened the oil filler neck and saw something at the bottom of the chamber. I grabbed a magnet, and this 1” piece of metal shot out.

Does anybody have a clue as to what this might be? I’m hoping it’s a foreign object and not a piece of the case, but I’m stumped as to where it came from. My hope with this motor was to run it without splitting the case, but that plan is in doubt now. The metal piece has jagged edges and is shiny. Any guesses are appreciated.
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I hate to say it, but that looks like a piece of a bearing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)
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post Jul 31 2020, 08:05 PM
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Congrats, welcome, ,and good luck. Tearing down a 914 motor is not that difficult (actually, very easy to tear down and only moderately harder to rebuild).

And I love your work location. We my wife and I were still kinda newly-weds I tore down a BMW 4 cylinder in the apartment kitchen. 40 years later, we are still married (but I am not allowed to bring motors into the house any more).
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post Aug 1 2020, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE(bkrantz @ Jul 31 2020, 08:05 PM) *

Congrats, welcome, ,and good luck. Tearing down a 914 motor is not that difficult (actually, very easy to tear down and only moderately harder to rebuild).

And I love your work location. We my wife and I were still kinda newly-weds I tore down a BMW 4 cylinder in the apartment kitchen. 40 years later, we are still married (but I am not allowed to bring motors into the house any more).

What are all the manuals that I need? So far I have the 1) original workshop manuals, 2) Haynes manual, 3) 700 tech tips. I am thinking of buying the Bug Me video as well. Think between those and the knowledge on this board, I should be in a good position.
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post Aug 1 2020, 07:48 AM
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Shoptalk has a good Type4 community too, worth taking a look.

Might also be worth connecting with a good local shop.

Welcome and please keep up posted on your porgress.
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post Aug 2 2020, 09:54 PM
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I'm well on my way towards splitting the case and still no sign of where the metal originated from. I am hung up on removing the pistons now and stopped for the night

1) can anybody recommend a good set of snap ring pliers? The ones I purchased at Harbor Freight dont seem to apply enough pressure to remove the snap ring. Is it easiest to use the straight or 90 degree attachment?

2) do i need to label cylander heads when I put them away. Understand most other components it's critical to label, but unsure if that matters here.

The house is much dirtier than I promised my girlfriend, and hoping to have this motor completely broken down this week. Then time to break down the other motor and see if it's a better starting point

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post Aug 3 2020, 10:52 AM
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Wow...engine work INSIDE the house? I salute you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

I really like this upgraded snap ring I got from HF. One knob to change direction....

https://www.harborfreight.com/snap-ring-pli...tion-63938.html

Highly recommend Jake's type iv video - volume 8 from Bug Me....

If you end up needing pistons and cylinders, go with KB (european motor works carries them). The ones I got from AA were out of spec...
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post Aug 3 2020, 12:23 PM
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GIRLFRIEND?

Marry that girl!
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post Aug 3 2020, 04:33 PM
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If I were a betting man, I’d say this could be the problem. The remains of piston #1...how does this even happen?

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post Aug 3 2020, 08:11 PM
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Friction from worn rings, or a bad rebuild
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post Aug 15 2020, 09:17 PM
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The car made its way home with me today and is ready to be reassembled! It's amazing how small the 914 is compared to my 996 2S. Having not run across major issues yet, my super ambitious and 'straight forward" plan is:

Interior
- Test electric and start to button up the cabin
- Replace dash
- Install door cards
- Install perlon backing
- Install carpet
- Install seats
- Door cards

Suspension & brakes
- Get tires mounted
- Install new front/rear rotors and hubs (5 lug conversion)
- Mount rebuilt calipers

Fuel
- Install all new hard lines
- Install all new fuel hoses and filter
- Install gas tank

Exterior
- Paint side skirts

Motor
- Reassemble 2nd 2.0 that came with the car and run it ASAP
- Build out the second 2.0 into 2056 perhaps over the next 1-2 years
- Rebuild the second transmission using Dr. Evil's course

Having just typed out that list, it feels a bit daunting but really excited to get going and build my first car! Also, the dog is already upset about how much attention the car is taking away from him. Hope to reward him with a wind-filled drive this fall.


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post Aug 16 2020, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(andrewck @ Aug 15 2020, 08:17 PM) *

The car made its way home with me today and is ready to be reassembled! It's amazing how small the 914 is compared to my 996 2S. Having not run across major issues yet, my super ambitious and 'straight forward" plan is:

Interior
- Test electric and start to button up the cabin
- Replace dash
- Install door cards
- Install perlon backing
- Install carpet
- Install seats
- Door cards

Suspension & brakes
- Get tires mounted
- Install new front/rear rotors and hubs (5 lug conversion)
- Mount rebuilt calipers

Fuel
- Install all new hard lines
- Install all new fuel hoses and filter
- Install gas tank

Exterior
- Paint side skirts

Motor
- Reassemble 2nd 2.0 that came with the car and run it ASAP
- Build out the second 2.0 into 2056 perhaps over the next 1-2 years
- Rebuild the second transmission using Dr. Evil's course

Having just typed out that list, it feels a bit daunting but really excited to get going and build my first car! Also, the dog is already upset about how much attention the car is taking away from him. Hope to reward him with a wind-filled drive this fall.


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post Aug 16 2020, 04:05 AM
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You definitely have a “keeper” in your girlfriend. How about a pic of your dog.
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post Aug 16 2020, 09:53 AM
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You definitely have a “keeper” in your girlfriend. How about a pic of your dog.

Bridger the dog posing with me on a recent fishing/camping trip in Telluride. His hobbies include putting his nose in between myself and whatever I’m working on, and helping make a bigger mess than I possibly could do myself. Wouldn’t have it any other way.
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